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		<title>Comment on Applying Information Privacy Norms to Re-Identification Demonstrations (Re-Identification Symposium) by Meyer Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meyer Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Posted on behalf of Steve Wilson:&lt;/strong&gt;

The fact that we are leaking all sorts of PII is precisely why I think generalised privacy laws are vital.  I blogged about this here http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2013/02/12/the-beginning-of-privacy and here http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2012/10/29/not-too-late-for-privacy.  A lot of the leakage is accidental; most people just don&#039;t know what is revealed about them as they surf the net, nor how companies absorb and re-purpose personal information provided during the course of business transactions.  I don&#039;t think people should be punished for their carelessness or naivety.  There should be limits to what can be done with PII regardless of how a third party has come across it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Posted on behalf of Steve Wilson:</strong></p>
<p>The fact that we are leaking all sorts of PII is precisely why I think generalised privacy laws are vital.  I blogged about this here <a href="http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2013/02/12/the-beginning-of-privacy" rel="nofollow">http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2013/02/12/the-beginning-of-privacy</a> and here <a href="http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2012/10/29/not-too-late-for-privacy" rel="nofollow">http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2012/10/29/not-too-late-for-privacy</a>.  A lot of the leakage is accidental; most people just don&#8217;t know what is revealed about them as they surf the net, nor how companies absorb and re-purpose personal information provided during the course of business transactions.  I don&#8217;t think people should be punished for their carelessness or naivety.  There should be limits to what can be done with PII regardless of how a third party has come across it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Information Privacy Norms to Re-Identification Demonstrations (Re-Identification Symposium) by Meyer Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/21/applying-information-privacy-norms-to-re-identification-demonstrations-re-identification-symposium/#comment-201736</link>
		<dc:creator>Meyer Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 21:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Posted on behalf of Steve Wilson:&lt;/strong&gt;

Ken makes a good point, that PII used in a re-identification has to come from somewhere, and the corresponding data custodian could try and restrict its use.  In the case of Yaniv&#039;s work, P came from public genealogical databases.  I have not chased down the Ts&amp;Cs for those databases -- but I bet the lawyers are!

But there&#039;s another thing:  In many jurisdictions, data protection or information privacy laws *do* put obligations on R2 despite the fact they have no relationship with S.  This is actually the point of such laws -- to protect consumers.  Companies and governments in Europe, Australia, New Zealand and many Asian nations are subject to legal Collection Limitation and Use Limitation principles. 

In the US there is famously no such cross-sector generalised privacy law. So what to do in America?  Should researchers stick to the letter of the law, or should they adopt for themselves a higher duty of care, and refrain from collecting and using PII without consent if it is not really needed?

I believe that many technologists and informaticians are simply unaware that across the world, re-identification is a form of indirect collection of PII, and as such may breach privacy laws.  Once they understand this, they might ask themselves if an act that is unlawful in many parts of the world is, by extension, unethical in the USA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Posted on behalf of Steve Wilson:</strong></p>
<p>Ken makes a good point, that PII used in a re-identification has to come from somewhere, and the corresponding data custodian could try and restrict its use.  In the case of Yaniv&#8217;s work, P came from public genealogical databases.  I have not chased down the Ts&amp;Cs for those databases &#8212; but I bet the lawyers are!</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s another thing:  In many jurisdictions, data protection or information privacy laws *do* put obligations on R2 despite the fact they have no relationship with S.  This is actually the point of such laws &#8212; to protect consumers.  Companies and governments in Europe, Australia, New Zealand and many Asian nations are subject to legal Collection Limitation and Use Limitation principles. </p>
<p>In the US there is famously no such cross-sector generalised privacy law. So what to do in America?  Should researchers stick to the letter of the law, or should they adopt for themselves a higher duty of care, and refrain from collecting and using PII without consent if it is not really needed?</p>
<p>I believe that many technologists and informaticians are simply unaware that across the world, re-identification is a form of indirect collection of PII, and as such may breach privacy laws.  Once they understand this, they might ask themselves if an act that is unlawful in many parts of the world is, by extension, unethical in the USA?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Information Privacy Norms to Re-Identification Demonstrations (Re-Identification Symposium) by glenncohen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/21/applying-information-privacy-norms-to-re-identification-demonstrations-re-identification-symposium/#comment-201670</link>
		<dc:creator>glenncohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, great post, what should we make of the fact that we are &quot;leaking&quot; genetic information constantly? Does it matter that the user in one case is a researcher and in another is just an ordinary citizen interested in learning something about you from what leave on a water bottle vs law enforcement or another arm of the state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, great post, what should we make of the fact that we are &#8220;leaking&#8221; genetic information constantly? Does it matter that the user in one case is a researcher and in another is just an ordinary citizen interested in learning something about you from what leave on a water bottle vs law enforcement or another arm of the state?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9th Circuit Strikes Down Arizona 20 Week Fetal Pain Abortion Ban: Some Reflections on the Opinion by glenncohen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/22/9th-circuit-strikes-down-arizona-20-week-fetal-pain-abortion-ban-some-reflections-on-the-opinion/#comment-201611</link>
		<dc:creator>glenncohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dov for the insightful comment (as always). Two points: (1) I think we agree (even if we hope not) that the Court could find the prevention of fetal pain as itself compelling standing alone. (2) As you note though we suggest that even if it does not find it compelling standing alone, it may be the case that in combination with the state&#039;s interest in preserving fetal life will be compelling. 
The cases you cite are interesting and not ones I have applied my mind to before. If I were inclined to distinguish them (imagining myself as a lawyer for those seeking to uphold the statute) here is what I might say: Thomas&#039; concurrence is just that. While California Democratic does NOT aggregate the various offered compelling interests to make them compelling, neither does it say that such interests could not y be aggregated in an appropriate case. Moreover, the language is dictum because on page 585 the Court writes &quot;Finally, we may observe that even if all these state interests were compelling ones, Proposition 198 is not a narrowly tailored means of furthering them.&quot; Finally, even if we took these cases to say what you suggest, perhaps one might draw a distinction based on the fact that the interest in preserving fetal life IS actually compelling, but just not compelling pre-viability, so not compelling *yet.* Perhaps one might suggest that this distinguishes these other cases: that aggregating interests cannot transform a non-compelling interest into a compelling one but it might *accelerate* when a compelling interest attaches? 
Do I find any of that convincing...not so much. Does it pass the smell test such that a Court inclined to rule that way could say it? I suspect yes. What do you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dov for the insightful comment (as always). Two points: (1) I think we agree (even if we hope not) that the Court could find the prevention of fetal pain as itself compelling standing alone. (2) As you note though we suggest that even if it does not find it compelling standing alone, it may be the case that in combination with the state&#8217;s interest in preserving fetal life will be compelling.<br />
The cases you cite are interesting and not ones I have applied my mind to before. If I were inclined to distinguish them (imagining myself as a lawyer for those seeking to uphold the statute) here is what I might say: Thomas&#8217; concurrence is just that. While California Democratic does NOT aggregate the various offered compelling interests to make them compelling, neither does it say that such interests could not y be aggregated in an appropriate case. Moreover, the language is dictum because on page 585 the Court writes &#8220;Finally, we may observe that even if all these state interests were compelling ones, Proposition 198 is not a narrowly tailored means of furthering them.&#8221; Finally, even if we took these cases to say what you suggest, perhaps one might draw a distinction based on the fact that the interest in preserving fetal life IS actually compelling, but just not compelling pre-viability, so not compelling *yet.* Perhaps one might suggest that this distinguishes these other cases: that aggregating interests cannot transform a non-compelling interest into a compelling one but it might *accelerate* when a compelling interest attaches?<br />
Do I find any of that convincing&#8230;not so much. Does it pass the smell test such that a Court inclined to rule that way could say it? I suspect yes. What do you think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 9th Circuit Strikes Down Arizona 20 Week Fetal Pain Abortion Ban: Some Reflections on the Opinion by Dov Fox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/22/9th-circuit-strikes-down-arizona-20-week-fetal-pain-abortion-ban-some-reflections-on-the-opinion/#comment-201604</link>
		<dc:creator>Dov Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 18:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific reflections on an important new case, Glenn. It’ll be interesting to see how other courts reason about the state’s putative interest in preventing fetal pain if challenges are brought in any of the eight other states that assert it as a justification for near-total bans on abortion before viability. As for the panel’s decision striking down the Arizona statute in this case, I second your predictions that the Ninth Circuit would decline any request to rehear it en banc and also that the Supreme Court would deny any petition for certiorari. And I agree with your suggestion that “the science is against finding fetal pain” whose prevention might be thought a compelling interest sufficient to restrict rights, draw suspect classifications, or regulate the content of speech.

I’m skeptical, however, that the case law supports the alternative way that you propose courts might reasonably construe an asserted fetal pain interest like Arizona’s: namely, “that, although preventing pain is not compelling on its own, it becomes so when combined with the state’s interest in preserving fetal life before viability.”

The Supreme Court has never, to my knowledge, suggested that multiple and mutually reinforcing state interests, if not compelling themselves, could be “combined” to count as a compelling one. But the Court has several times declined to endorse this aggregated-interest approach, most recently, I believe, in the First Amendment context. See California Democratic Party v. Jones, 530 U.S. 567, 582-85 (2000). In the Fourteenth Amendment context too, Justice Thomas (in a separate opinion), explicitly rejected the aggregation approach, writing that “the combination of . . . ‘three essential elements’” said to comprise a “compelling interest,” “does not,” if “[n]one of these elements is [itself] compelling,” thereby “produce an interest any more compelling than that represented by each element independently.” Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1, 551 U.S. 701, 759-60 (2007) (Thomas, J., concurring).

I’d be interested to learn of any doctrinal (or normative) reasons why non-compelling interests could (or should), under particular circumstances, or ever, be taken to add up or otherwise “combined” to constitute the canonical kind that the Court designates as “compelling.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific reflections on an important new case, Glenn. It’ll be interesting to see how other courts reason about the state’s putative interest in preventing fetal pain if challenges are brought in any of the eight other states that assert it as a justification for near-total bans on abortion before viability. As for the panel’s decision striking down the Arizona statute in this case, I second your predictions that the Ninth Circuit would decline any request to rehear it en banc and also that the Supreme Court would deny any petition for certiorari. And I agree with your suggestion that “the science is against finding fetal pain” whose prevention might be thought a compelling interest sufficient to restrict rights, draw suspect classifications, or regulate the content of speech.</p>
<p>I’m skeptical, however, that the case law supports the alternative way that you propose courts might reasonably construe an asserted fetal pain interest like Arizona’s: namely, “that, although preventing pain is not compelling on its own, it becomes so when combined with the state’s interest in preserving fetal life before viability.”</p>
<p>The Supreme Court has never, to my knowledge, suggested that multiple and mutually reinforcing state interests, if not compelling themselves, could be “combined” to count as a compelling one. But the Court has several times declined to endorse this aggregated-interest approach, most recently, I believe, in the First Amendment context. See California Democratic Party v. Jones, 530 U.S. 567, 582-85 (2000). In the Fourteenth Amendment context too, Justice Thomas (in a separate opinion), explicitly rejected the aggregation approach, writing that “the combination of . . . ‘three essential elements’” said to comprise a “compelling interest,” “does not,” if “[n]one of these elements is [itself] compelling,” thereby “produce an interest any more compelling than that represented by each element independently.” Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District No. 1, 551 U.S. 701, 759-60 (2007) (Thomas, J., concurring).</p>
<p>I’d be interested to learn of any doctrinal (or normative) reasons why non-compelling interests could (or should), under particular circumstances, or ever, be taken to add up or otherwise “combined” to constitute the canonical kind that the Court designates as “compelling.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sperm Donation, Anonymity, and Compensation: An Empirical Legal Study by glenncohen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/21/sperm-donation-anonymity-and-compensation-an-empirical-legal-study/#comment-201520</link>
		<dc:creator>glenncohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Holly. We are currently doing a follow-up study on actual sperm donors so we will see if the same numbers hold or not. That is a great point about re-anonymization and whether the line between identity-release and anonymous sperm donation will get blurred!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Holly. We are currently doing a follow-up study on actual sperm donors so we will see if the same numbers hold or not. That is a great point about re-anonymization and whether the line between identity-release and anonymous sperm donation will get blurred!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Applying Information Privacy Norms to Re-Identification Demonstrations (Re-Identification Symposium) by Ken Chahine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/21/applying-information-privacy-norms-to-re-identification-demonstrations-re-identification-symposium/#comment-201519</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Chahine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your example, S consented to R1, but there is no consent with R2.  Absent some law, therefore, R2 does not seem to have a legal obligation to protect the privacy of R2.
 
Now imagine that we add another variable to the equation, P (for Personal Identifiable Information, PII).  R2 presumable has to get P from somewhere to re-identify the DNA sample.  If that “somewhere” is, for example, a website, then the entity hosting the information could presumably put legal restriction on the use of its data.  In other words, the entity could create a contract and legal cause of action against R2 if he (I always assume bad actors are males) uses P inconsistent with the Terms of Use.  More specifically, the Terms of Use could prohibit the use of the information for purposes other than those allowed by the service and could specifically call out re-identification as a prohibited use. 
 
Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your example, S consented to R1, but there is no consent with R2.  Absent some law, therefore, R2 does not seem to have a legal obligation to protect the privacy of R2.</p>
<p>Now imagine that we add another variable to the equation, P (for Personal Identifiable Information, PII).  R2 presumable has to get P from somewhere to re-identify the DNA sample.  If that “somewhere” is, for example, a website, then the entity hosting the information could presumably put legal restriction on the use of its data.  In other words, the entity could create a contract and legal cause of action against R2 if he (I always assume bad actors are males) uses P inconsistent with the Terms of Use.  More specifically, the Terms of Use could prohibit the use of the information for purposes other than those allowed by the service and could specifically call out re-identification as a prohibited use. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sperm Donation, Anonymity, and Compensation: An Empirical Legal Study by Holly Fernandez Lynch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/21/sperm-donation-anonymity-and-compensation-an-empirical-legal-study/#comment-201032</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Fernandez Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 03:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am *amazed* that men are willing to give up their anonymity for such a low price!  I wonder if/how this will change once we move even further into a world where nothing is really anonymous and everyone can be &quot;re-identified&quot; - the perfect segue into the online symposium going on right now here at Bill of Health!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am *amazed* that men are willing to give up their anonymity for such a low price!  I wonder if/how this will change once we move even further into a world where nothing is really anonymous and everyone can be &#8220;re-identified&#8221; &#8211; the perfect segue into the online symposium going on right now here at Bill of Health!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Discrimination Against Obese Patients by glenncohen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/05/01/discrimination-against-obese-patients/#comment-188564</link>
		<dc:creator>glenncohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 13:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great paper and podcast Holly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great paper and podcast Holly!</p>
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		<title>Comment on This American Life and Stigma by Meyer Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meyer Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 05:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you know anyone with dementia? Have you taken care of anyone with dementia?&quot; Not that it&#039;s any of your business, but Yes and Yes. And it was absolutely awful. And yes, people with dementia can endanger themselves (e.g., by wandering off, which, yes, I&#039;ve seen personally) and others (e.g., by insisting on continuing to drive -- and yes, I&#039;ve have fond memories of having to take away the car keys and sell the car, too; thanks for inviting me to relive them). 

But we&#039;re not talking about dementia, and we&#039;re not talking about car accidents. We&#039;re talking about psychosis and a grisly murder. Yes, those with HD, like those with dementia, can be belligerent and even physically aggressive -- for instance, using their cane to whack their caretaker on the head. But it is not &quot;polite&quot; to point out that neither those with HD nor those with dementia are at all likely to commit murder -- it is accurate.

Since you seem to think that personal experience is a prerequisite to commenting on an issue, I&#039;ll share that in addition to my experience with dementia, and much more to the point, I&#039;ve known people with HD. Do you tend to see many patients with HD in your ophthalmology practice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you know anyone with dementia? Have you taken care of anyone with dementia?&#8221; Not that it&#8217;s any of your business, but Yes and Yes. And it was absolutely awful. And yes, people with dementia can endanger themselves (e.g., by wandering off, which, yes, I&#8217;ve seen personally) and others (e.g., by insisting on continuing to drive &#8212; and yes, I&#8217;ve have fond memories of having to take away the car keys and sell the car, too; thanks for inviting me to relive them). </p>
<p>But we&#8217;re not talking about dementia, and we&#8217;re not talking about car accidents. We&#8217;re talking about psychosis and a grisly murder. Yes, those with HD, like those with dementia, can be belligerent and even physically aggressive &#8212; for instance, using their cane to whack their caretaker on the head. But it is not &#8220;polite&#8221; to point out that neither those with HD nor those with dementia are at all likely to commit murder &#8212; it is accurate.</p>
<p>Since you seem to think that personal experience is a prerequisite to commenting on an issue, I&#8217;ll share that in addition to my experience with dementia, and much more to the point, I&#8217;ve known people with HD. Do you tend to see many patients with HD in your ophthalmology practice?</p>
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