Posted by Erica, 2/23/06 at 7:17:40 PM.
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Attendees:
CJ: Critt Jarvis
RM: Rebecca MacKinnon
BI: Bill Ives
AW: Amanda Watlington
BW: Bill Wendell
S: Sun
TM: Tim Macinta real estate blogger
DH: Dick Howe estate blogger, from lowell
j: j Baumgart
EG: Erica George
DJ: Dean Jansen
NW: Nathan Woodhull
MW: Mal Watlington
BS: Brett Stilwell
SJ: SJ, sort of vaguely here…
Agenda
Critt:
Newsvine! http://newsvine.com
Top News: mainstream news down the center, from AP wire. they have tags and comments enabled, ability to vote.
but mroe interesting, on the right, you can seed other articles.
i’m more involved in seeding. i may get it out of a google alert, say, a bbc article’s sidebar… or a blog…
“read seed & write”
first thing i view topnews – that makes sure i know what’s going pn, that i won’t be duplicating anything by seeding something someone else already did. also my watchlist, on newsvine top left
then i go to my gmail and my alerts
i also go to global voices – david sasaki writes a digest cap every day.
(demo of how he seeds from gv’s digest) – there’s a toolbar bookmarklet etc you can get to make it super easy. grabs title from html, you copy in description, it grabs source, you tag, add region categorization, categorize by type of seed (event, opinion, other, private). you can edit what it grabs too.
once you’ve seeded something it will go into the “vines” by the meta-tags, so for example if you tag it middle-east, it will show up in the vine for middle east.
(something else that critt is also using http://www.protopage.com, which i didn’t notate)
feeds you can build on newsvine based on source, seeder, tags… JSS scripts to pull the content right into your blog
AW – that’s neat – not an iframe…
Critt:
search functions aren’t that great, tho great on tags and author name. not that good on full text.
this is the beta version. they are pretty well funded and savvy.
(several folks compare to digg and reddit, tho specific functionalities are different)
the folks laucnhing newsvine are former Disney and ESP people – see http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/060209bryant/ for a review.
newsvine blog http://blog.newsvine.com
they request what ppl want to see in their apis
great on feedback
revenue model is on traffic. msot liekly some of the top or sidebar real estate will get google adsense or something like it.
RM: when will this be publicly visible?
CJ: in a couple weeks
CJ: for now the rss etc won’t work yet, cos the closed beta requires login for the content…
AW: can you see who else is on at the same time?
CJ: no
AW: so you can’t see if other folks are also working at same time as you
CJ: yeah, the ‘your conversations’ are comments you make, or that are made to your column…
(your column being your posts, links, etc. – inc seeds??
the lefthand column, once you customise, is always your customised stuff
cj: as i find authors i consistently read i add them to my watchlist
(eg: aside to notes: the interface here is very attractive and slick, much much nicer than most beta sites)
cj: authjors can put up bios, contact forms, have ability to get positive feedback, have header that shows # links seeded, etc.
cj: regional tab on top right – but i think they should learn from how GV does its regions
cj: once you are signed up then you can invite 20 other folks
RM: so i can’t have my blog automatically feed into this trhu rss?
RM: cos i want it to suck the conten t of my blog in, with all it s categories and tags, and seed it automatically
RM: but i’m not gonna reblog everything automatically
cj: suggest this in their request for apis
aw: how do they planm to keep spammers out when it goes live? thi would be spam heaven – as so many web 2.0 apps are. linkfarm heaven
cj: i used to add a link to a bird flu resource page on every bird flu related comment i made… and the newsvine spam thingie caught it, and the admins told me to stop doing that.
cj: i was commenting on my onw posts bc there’s not a lot of space to put text in a seed – it gets truncated. so i was fitting in more by commenting on my own posts with addit’l info.
you can turn comments off too
cj: when you psot something you can do headline, body, category, tags, region, upload an image (unsure if you can put in metadata for the image)
aw wants image metadata at upload
cj: also has podcasts
rm: is it only the ap that they pull in on the professional wire? what if someone wants another wire source? did they do some deal with ap for reblogging their content
cj: must be, cos some ap writers have blogs on here… or is it just newsvine pulling her content?
rm: highly unlikely that all the ap journalists would be actively participating in a beta thing…
cj: http://www.solutionwatch.com has features info…
bs: looks like they’re just running the ap rss feed… so that must then mean our blogs’ rss feeds could seed automatically too
bi: how would you briefly describe “what is newsvine”
cj: for me personalyl, a way to participate with the news process, to inform more thasn just become informed by something. i have resources i want to share. you can participate as both consumer and producer. commenting means you can further a story, email the author, etc. start other dialogues with authors and with commenters.
sun: i just tried and it doesn’t support chinese characters, so it likely doesn’t support other nonroman characters
rm: that’s a big minus, being non-unicode-compliant
cj: (experminets and is able to get arabic script into a post, that works – tho it justifies left instead of right)
sun: but no, the tags won’t work with chinese tags
cj: (tries arabic tag – it didn’t take)
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