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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#8217;s Zune Won&#8217;t Play Protected Windows Media</title>
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		<title>By: C Shelton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-8252</link>
		<dc:creator>C Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All - I am only a consumer but as a consumer I can vote with my money and influence others purchasing decisions.  We purchased a zune for our son, &quot;upgrading&quot; to a Zune 30GB from a series of ipods and Creative players.  The exclusivity of itunes and compatibility issues with Windows Media player led us to select PlayforSure choices. Creative provided excellent lower cost solutions for our Autisic son who tends to give his player away to anyone who asks for it, or chunks it against the wall when it needed charging and refused to work. As avid MS supporters standardizing on MS solutions - we happily swapped out for Zune.

Since then, all of our songs licensed through wallmart no longer work.  Songs downloaded from Rhapsody no longer work.  Windows Media player (and XP) freeze suddenly and crash when Zune is running or itunes.  We hate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All &#8211; I am only a consumer but as a consumer I can vote with my money and influence others purchasing decisions.  We purchased a zune for our son, &#8220;upgrading&#8221; to a Zune 30GB from a series of ipods and Creative players.  The exclusivity of itunes and compatibility issues with Windows Media player led us to select PlayforSure choices. Creative provided excellent lower cost solutions for our Autisic son who tends to give his player away to anyone who asks for it, or chunks it against the wall when it needed charging and refused to work. As avid MS supporters standardizing on MS solutions &#8211; we happily swapped out for Zune.</p>
<p>Since then, all of our songs licensed through wallmart no longer work.  Songs downloaded from Rhapsody no longer work.  Windows Media player (and XP) freeze suddenly and crash when Zune is running or itunes.  We hate it.</p>
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		<title>By: eirikso.com &#187; DRM is a stupid idea</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-6850</link>
		<dc:creator>eirikso.com &#187; DRM is a stupid idea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Copyfighter’s Musings Microsoft’s Zune Won’t Play Protected Windows Media May this be a lesson to those who mistakenly laud certain DRM as “open” and offering customers “freedom of choice” simply because it is widely-licensed. With DRM under the DMCA, nothing truly plays for sure, regardless of whether you’re purchasing from Apple, Microsoft, or anyone else.   Listen to this podcast [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Copyfighter’s Musings Microsoft’s Zune Won’t Play Protected Windows Media May this be a lesson to those who mistakenly laud certain DRM as “open” and offering customers “freedom of choice” simply because it is widely-licensed. With DRM under the DMCA, nothing truly plays for sure, regardless of whether you’re purchasing from Apple, Microsoft, or anyone else.   Listen to this podcast [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-6212</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now i&#039;m no technology wiz and i&#039;m not exactly up to date with all the
technological terms of this but...

if i buy a song for $.99, why can&#039;t i do what i like with it
It&#039;s my song, so why can&#039;t i download it to an mp3 player of my choice?

I was seriously considering buyin a zune, but if i can&#039;t download my songs
from napster to it, then what&#039;s the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now i&#8217;m no technology wiz and i&#8217;m not exactly up to date with all the<br />
technological terms of this but&#8230;</p>
<p>if i buy a song for $.99, why can&#8217;t i do what i like with it<br />
It&#8217;s my song, so why can&#8217;t i download it to an mp3 player of my choice?</p>
<p>I was seriously considering buyin a zune, but if i can&#8217;t download my songs<br />
from napster to it, then what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Altering Log &#187; The Zuney Bin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5628</link>
		<dc:creator>Altering Log &#187; The Zuney Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People are mocking the fact it doesn&#8217;t work with Windows Vista, raging about the its viral DRM, rolling their eyes about software crashes, and just plain scratching their heads that previously purchased &#8220;Microsoft PlaysForSure&#8221; DRM content, uh, doesn&#8217;t play. CNN&#8217;s morning show had a nice overview of the Zune. &#8220;Why don&#8217;t they get some decent design people&#8230; it&#8217;s clunky.&#8221; Zing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] People are mocking the fact it doesn&#8217;t work with Windows Vista, raging about the its viral DRM, rolling their eyes about software crashes, and just plain scratching their heads that previously purchased &#8220;Microsoft PlaysForSure&#8221; DRM content, uh, doesn&#8217;t play. CNN&#8217;s morning show had a nice overview of the Zune. &#8220;Why don&#8217;t they get some decent design people&#8230; it&#8217;s clunky.&#8221; Zing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Katnoodle: by Richard Cassidy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Zune/nose/spite/face</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5615</link>
		<dc:creator>Katnoodle: by Richard Cassidy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Zune/nose/spite/face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not sure which is the worst feature, the DRM wireless, the points rip off, the pirate tax, but this stands out: Microsoft’s Zune will not play protected Windows Media Audio and Video purchased or “rented” from Napster 2.0, Rhapsody, Yahoo! Unlimited, Movielink, Cinemanow, or any other online media service. Read all about it. Now tell me DRM is good. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not sure which is the worst feature, the DRM wireless, the points rip off, the pirate tax, but this stands out: Microsoft’s Zune will not play protected Windows Media Audio and Video purchased or “rented” from Napster 2.0, Rhapsody, Yahoo! Unlimited, Movielink, Cinemanow, or any other online media service. Read all about it. Now tell me DRM is good. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5471</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Allthough that footnote says it will play unprotected WMA it does not state it does not play protected wma content. 
The original text states it plays content that was bought according to the dmr protection that was added. 
That might well mean it plays wma audio content from playforsure online shops but not video content from amazon or cinema now.</description>
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<p>Allthough that footnote says it will play unprotected WMA it does not state it does not play protected wma content.<br />
The original text states it plays content that was bought according to the dmr protection that was added.<br />
That might well mean it plays wma audio content from playforsure online shops but not video content from amazon or cinema now.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5467</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Why is no one questioning Microsoft for not allowing their own DRM to work on their own device.  no one expected a MS device to play apple DRM files.  We did expect it to play Microsoft&#039;s &quot;industry Standard&quot; DRM</description>
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<p>Why is no one questioning Microsoft for not allowing their own DRM to work on their own device.  no one expected a MS device to play apple DRM files.  We did expect it to play Microsoft&#8217;s &#8220;industry Standard&#8221; DRM</p>
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		<title>By: Damien</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5436</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Take note: Nope, Zunes (Or any other mp3 player other than iPods) will NEVER play iTunes-DRMed AAC. Why? Because Apple has stated over and over that they will not license their FairPlay DRM tools. It&#039;s how they keep you locked in to iPod + iTunes, dude. You can&#039;t take your songs anyplace else.</description>
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<p>Take note: Nope, Zunes (Or any other mp3 player other than iPods) will NEVER play iTunes-DRMed AAC. Why? Because Apple has stated over and over that they will not license their FairPlay DRM tools. It&#8217;s how they keep you locked in to iPod + iTunes, dude. You can&#8217;t take your songs anyplace else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimenes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5435</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Figures a Harvard law student would make such a glaring error. Do they just pick people off the street at random?

Just because the PlayForSure formats aren&#039;t listed DOESN&#039;T mean that they aren&#039;t supported. It simply means they aren&#039;t listed.

Oh...and I copied your blog to a few splogs. I figured, since you hate copyright so much you wouldn&#039;t mind if someone else made money using your content.

Tit for tat, and all that.</description>
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<p>Figures a Harvard law student would make such a glaring error. Do they just pick people off the street at random?</p>
<p>Just because the PlayForSure formats aren&#8217;t listed DOESN&#8217;T mean that they aren&#8217;t supported. It simply means they aren&#8217;t listed.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and I copied your blog to a few splogs. I figured, since you hate copyright so much you wouldn&#8217;t mind if someone else made money using your content.</p>
<p>Tit for tat, and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5432</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Nice job turning Digg into a forum for your blog. Have fun watching your ad revenue permanently take a dip.</description>
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<p>Nice job turning Digg into a forum for your blog. Have fun watching your ad revenue permanently take a dip.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Copying music without the copyright holders express authority is the foundation of copyright!   I hate it when people gloss over theft.  How in the world do you justify being able to download any wma in their library for 10$ a month and doing whatever you please with it. Simply ridiculous.</description>
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<p>Copying music without the copyright holders express authority is the foundation of copyright!   I hate it when people gloss over theft.  How in the world do you justify being able to download any wma in their library for 10$ a month and doing whatever you please with it. Simply ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Slater</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5430</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Anon, I disagree, in part for reasons mentioned here:
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/08/28#a1893

Moreover, that is not a contradiction -- regardless of the effect on the music services, the uses are still non-infringing. &quot;Endangering a business model&quot; does not equal copyright infringement.  You might be violating a contract with the service provider, but keeping the songs after you cancel a subscription is not copyright infringement.</description>
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<p>Anon, I disagree, in part for reasons mentioned here:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/08/28#a1893" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/08/28#a1893</a></p>
<p>Moreover, that is not a contradiction &#8212; regardless of the effect on the music services, the uses are still non-infringing. &#8220;Endangering a business model&#8221; does not equal copyright infringement.  You might be violating a contract with the service provider, but keeping the songs after you cancel a subscription is not copyright infringement.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Slater</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/2006/09/15/microsofts-zune-wont-play-protected-windows-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5429</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Anon, I don&#039;t have time to explain this fully right now, but see this post:</description>
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<p>Anon, I don&#8217;t have time to explain this fully right now, but see this post:</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Hi Derek, you are contradicting yourself and I think purposefully ignoring the inconsistencies in your anti-DRM world view.

I quote:
&quot;The real culprit here is the DMCA -- but for that bad law, customers could legally convert DRMed files into whatever format they want, and tech creators would be free to reverse engineer the DRM to create compatible devices. Even though those acts have traditionally been and still are non-infringing, the DMCA makes them illegal and stifles fair use, innovation, and competition. &quot;

That is simply not true.  DRM enables music rental services to exist.  Without the protection of DRM, there is no way a company could bring you legal access to millions of tracks for $10/mo.  Without DRM, their customers would (illegally!) be able to keep the music beyond the terms of their subscription.

Reverse-engineering the DRM endagers the business models of all the music subscription services.</description>
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<p>Hi Derek, you are contradicting yourself and I think purposefully ignoring the inconsistencies in your anti-DRM world view.</p>
<p>I quote:<br />
&#8220;The real culprit here is the DMCA &#8212; but for that bad law, customers could legally convert DRMed files into whatever format they want, and tech creators would be free to reverse engineer the DRM to create compatible devices. Even though those acts have traditionally been and still are non-infringing, the DMCA makes them illegal and stifles fair use, innovation, and competition. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is simply not true.  DRM enables music rental services to exist.  Without the protection of DRM, there is no way a company could bring you legal access to millions of tracks for $10/mo.  Without DRM, their customers would (illegally!) be able to keep the music beyond the terms of their subscription.</p>
<p>Reverse-engineering the DRM endagers the business models of all the music subscription services.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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And people wonder why illegal downloads thrive...</description>
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<p>And people wonder why illegal downloads thrive&#8230;</p>
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