Comments on: Social vs. Collaborative Spaces http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/ Berkman investigators, fellows, research assistants and interns sound off about all things Digital Natives Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:20:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anne Collier http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/comment-page-1/#comment-852 Anne Collier Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:01:48 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/#comment-852 I've been thinking a lot about Mimi Ito's ref to interest- vs. friendship-driven social networking (http://digitalyouth.ischool.berkeley.edu/blog/3), which is a similar question, but a little different from yours, Jacob, I think, because your question seems to be age-agnostic, not about teens' use of SNS. But a couple of random thoughts since this blog is about the natives: One of my takeaways from the Digital Youth presentations was that the interest-driven social networking by youth is a tool, or enabler, of collaboration that flows freely between online and offline (thinking about Zittrain's suggestion that adults think too much in binaries). This is only impressionistic because I'm not an academic, but it seems you're right that true collaboration isn't/can't happen entirely online yet, if teens even care, and that the online part only adds convenience (overcoming geographically related limitations) to collaboration in general. Social networking online is still a relatively bare-bones utility for teens, it appears to me, more than a "place" like an office or other collaboration space. But SN is a utility for their "jobs," one of which very clearly is socializing. Interest-driven SN, as done by the young hip hop artists Dilan Mahendran observed (or might be done in a vertical-interest site in Ning), is a utility for musical collaboration that happens wherever but mostly offline. Maybe right now the online tool is, as I've learned from danah, more about audiences than an actual place for collaboration. Am I stating the obvious? Thanks for your post! I’ve been thinking a lot about Mimi Ito’s ref to interest- vs. friendship-driven social networking (http://digitalyouth.ischool.berkeley.edu/blog/3), which is a similar question, but a little different from yours, Jacob, I think, because your question seems to be age-agnostic, not about teens’ use of SNS. But a couple of random thoughts since this blog is about the natives: One of my takeaways from the Digital Youth presentations was that the interest-driven social networking by youth is a tool, or enabler, of collaboration that flows freely between online and offline (thinking about Zittrain’s suggestion that adults think too much in binaries). This is only impressionistic because I’m not an academic, but it seems you’re right that true collaboration isn’t/can’t happen entirely online yet, if teens even care, and that the online part only adds convenience (overcoming geographically related limitations) to collaboration in general. Social networking online is still a relatively bare-bones utility for teens, it appears to me, more than a “place” like an office or other collaboration space. But SN is a utility for their “jobs,” one of which very clearly is socializing. Interest-driven SN, as done by the young hip hop artists Dilan Mahendran observed (or might be done in a vertical-interest site in Ning), is a utility for musical collaboration that happens wherever but mostly offline. Maybe right now the online tool is, as I’ve learned from danah, more about audiences than an actual place for collaboration. Am I stating the obvious? Thanks for your post!

]]> By: Kendra http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/comment-page-1/#comment-837 Kendra Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:23:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/#comment-837 Interesting article on CNN Money today entitled 'Workplace Collaboration and Web 2.0 - A Powerful Combination" - http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0413639.htm Refers to a number of trends in online collaboration... and where business aspects of collaboration seem to be headed, which I would argue is an important component of utilizing social media spaces. Take care, Kendra Box.net Interesting article on CNN Money today entitled ‘Workplace Collaboration and Web 2.0 – A Powerful Combination” – http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0413639.htm

Refers to a number of trends in online collaboration… and where business aspects of collaboration seem to be headed, which I would argue is an important component of utilizing social media spaces.

Take care,
Kendra
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]]> By: Saqib Ali http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/comment-page-1/#comment-835 Saqib Ali Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:35:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/#comment-835 I have been thinking about this topic as well. I think twine.com is trying to bridge the gap between collaboration and social networking. At first glance twine looks more like glorified, social networking enabled, web 3.0, semantic based bookmarking tool, but it has the capability and features to be used a collaboration tool as well. You can upload documents or create content on twine, and have your friends collaborate on those. Albeit rudimentary, incomplete and very basic. twine still has a long long way to go before it becomes a usable collaborative social networking platform, but it has the potential to become one. Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with twine. I have been thinking about this topic as well. I think twine.com is trying to bridge the gap between collaboration and social networking. At first glance twine looks more like glorified, social networking enabled, web 3.0, semantic based bookmarking tool, but it has the capability and features to be used a collaboration tool as well. You can upload documents or create content on twine, and have your friends collaborate on those. Albeit rudimentary, incomplete and very basic.

twine still has a long long way to go before it becomes a usable collaborative social networking platform, but it has the potential to become one.

Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with twine.

]]> By: DK http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/comment-page-1/#comment-834 DK Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:39:06 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/digitalnatives/2008/07/08/social-vs-collaborative-spaces/#comment-834 Check out Matt Locke's six spaces of social media to add to the discussion: http://mediasnackers.com/report/2008/February/15/584/ Might help, might confuse :-) Check out Matt Locke’s six spaces of social media to add to the discussion:

http://mediasnackers.com/report/2008/February/15/584/

Might help, might confuse :-)

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