Comments on: Getting worse before it gets worse again http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/ Same old blog, brand new place Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:14:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eric http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3405 Eric Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:10:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/#comment-3405 Hi Doc, Report from the field: Where I am in China, Google Blogsearch and Yahoo both work fine. The rumour here is that censorship happens at the ISP level, so it can vary wildly from place to place (and in China that covers a lot of territory). Also, I find that a proxy like anonymouse.org gets around most instances of site blocking. None of which changes your larger point about the net being co-opted (yes, I'm part of THAT generation) by political and economic big boys who want, of course, to use it for their own purposes. [Insert your choice of Kurt Vonnegut quotations here.] Cheers, Eric Hi Doc,

Report from the field: Where I am in China, Google Blogsearch and Yahoo both work fine.

The rumour here is that censorship happens at the ISP level, so it can vary wildly from place to place (and in China that covers a lot of territory). Also, I find that a proxy like anonymouse.org gets around most instances of site blocking.

None of which changes your larger point about the net being co-opted (yes, I’m part of THAT generation) by political and economic big boys who want, of course, to use it for their own purposes.

[Insert your choice of Kurt Vonnegut quotations here.]

Cheers,

Eric

]]> By: Trey Tomeny http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3375 Trey Tomeny Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:05:14 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/#comment-3375 This is why the Private Identity Network proposal (replacegogle.com) provides that the limited data and limited power central entity operate in the computing cloud of the Identity Provision entities and own no tangible assets at all. Governments can only influence property and persons that are within their range of force. With the central entity of the PIN formed as a private partnership among participating network members, it will be beyond most government influence- at worst they can cut off a finger or a toe, but not kill the whole body, and it will be a starfish body that grows back. If I ever seem overzealous in my promotion of the PIN, it is because I dread the day when the Internet becomes an instrument of oppression rather than liberation. I believe it is incumbent upon us to come up with a version of the Internet that governments won't have an easy excuse to meddle in. This is why the Private Identity Network proposal  replacegogle.com) provides that the limited data and limited power central entity operate in the computing cloud of the Identity Provision entities and own no tangible assets at all.

Governments can only influence property and persons that are within their range of force. With the central entity of the PIN formed as a private partnership among participating network members, it will be beyond most government influence- at worst they can cut off a finger or a toe, but not kill the whole body, and it will be a starfish body that grows back.

If I ever seem overzealous in my promotion of the PIN, it is because I dread the day when the Internet becomes an instrument of oppression rather than liberation. I believe it is incumbent upon us to come up with a version of the Internet that governments won’t have an easy excuse to meddle in.

]]> By: Seth E http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3372 Seth E Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:06:14 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/#comment-3372 Certainly this isn't a good thing, but is there really much of a difference between China blocking Google and Google blocking sites for China that China finds offensive? In fact, what they're doing seems reasonable, why NOT eliminate the middleman? They clearly can suppress their people much better then our companies can. Certainly this isn’t a good thing, but is there really much of a difference between China blocking Google and Google blocking sites for China that China finds offensive? In fact, what they’re doing seems reasonable, why NOT eliminate the middleman? They clearly can suppress their people much better then our companies can.

]]> By: Mike Taht http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3369 Mike Taht Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:50:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/18/getting-worse-before-it-gets-worse-again/#comment-3369 Usenet. No one owns it. But the RIAA thinks usenet.com does... this just in.... <a href="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/10/riaa_usenet" rel="nofollow">The RIAA finally goes after usenet</a> At least, anyone with half a brain can show usenet has substantial non-infringing uses. Here's hoping that usenet.com can win... eventually. So long as usenet news still flows it's a free world. Usenet. No one owns it. But the RIAA thinks usenet.com does… this just in….

The RIAA finally goes after usenet

At least, anyone with half a brain can show usenet has substantial non-infringing uses. Here’s hoping that usenet.com can win… eventually.

So long as usenet news still flows it’s a free world.

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