Comments on: Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/ Same old blog, brand new place Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:25:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: The information architecture must fit « Network(ed)News http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-84315 The information architecture must fit « Network(ed)News Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:13:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-84315 [...] Feeds. Rivers of news. Because browsing and search are less efficient. News is what’s happening, not what [...] [...] Feeds. Rivers of news. Because browsing and search are less efficient. News is what’s happening, not what [...]

]]> By: Sechs Beobachtungen zur Zukunft der Nachrichten at viralmythen http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-36245 Sechs Beobachtungen zur Zukunft der Nachrichten at viralmythen Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:39:18 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-36245 [...] Nachrichtenseiten sind nicht mehr Endpunkte, sondern Zwischenstationen. Nachrichtenportale sind keine walled gardens mehr. Die dort publizierten Meldungen können syndiziert, kommentiert, geokodiert, auf Facebook gepostet, gediggt oder geyiggt werden. Sie werden zu einem unter vielen Rohstoffen in digitalen Mashups. Anders ausgedrückt: news is a river. [...] [...] Nachrichtenseiten sind nicht mehr Endpunkte, sondern Zwischenstationen. Nachrichtenportale sind keine walled gardens mehr. Die dort publizierten Meldungen können syndiziert, kommentiert, geokodiert, auf Facebook gepostet, gediggt oder geyiggt werden. Sie werden zu einem unter vielen Rohstoffen in digitalen Mashups. Anders ausgedrückt: news is a river. [...]

]]> By: Doc Searls: “Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river” :: dumpsterhead http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-27941 Doc Searls: “Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river” :: dumpsterhead Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:27:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-27941 [...] Searls knocks one out of the part with his latest piece on newspapers, the web, and the future. Having working in the newspaper business — and specifically in the “online” [...] [...] Searls knocks one out of the part with his latest piece on newspapers, the web, and the future. Having working in the newspaper business — and specifically in the “online” [...]

]]> By: faster — infotainment rules http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-11139 faster — infotainment rules Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:04:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-11139 [...] most voters aren’t even paying attention. They just cannot afford to stand still as the river of news*** rushes by [...] [...] most voters aren’t even paying attention. They just cannot afford to stand still as the river of news*** rushes by [...]

]]> By: Ashwin Sodhi http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-4199 Ashwin Sodhi Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:47:26 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-4199 I certainly agree that this industry is historically molasses-footed and largely reactive to emerging technologies. The prospect of the newsriver bringing up a lot of "sediment" -- it could really enliven the mouth(s) into which the river flows. Additionally, I'd like to point out Timeliness is only one of the criteria for a newsworthy story -- the internet is a dynamic platform could and has the potential to augment all aspects of newsworthiness. Live, living -- it is the key. I certainly agree that this industry is historically molasses-footed and largely reactive to emerging technologies. The prospect of the newsriver bringing up a lot of “sediment” — it could really enliven the mouth(s) into which the river flows.

Additionally, I’d like to point out Timeliness is only one of the criteria for a newsworthy story — the internet is a dynamic platform could and has the potential to augment all aspects of newsworthiness. Live, living — it is the key.

]]> By: Li-River » Blog Archives » Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3878 Li-River » Blog Archives » Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:48:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3878 [...] Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. … [...] [...] Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. … [...]

]]> By: newsroomnext » Blog Archive » Cover every story like the Orlando Sentinel covered the space shuttle launch http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3755 newsroomnext » Blog Archive » Cover every story like the Orlando Sentinel covered the space shuttle launch Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:53:57 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3755 [...] Think of every story, structurally, as an individual blog or, as Doc Searls might say, as a river. [...] [...] Think of every story, structurally, as an individual blog or, as Doc Searls might say, as a river. [...]

]]> By: Jacob Harris http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3733 Jacob Harris Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:41:49 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3733 Well, the New York Times does flow some stories into the feeds and website well before the deadline for print journalism, so it's not entirely radical (the main problem is that management makes the front page look too much like a print newspaper so this flow is lost...). But I still feel there will always be an inherent daily cycle to the newspapers and not a continuous flow (just like there is a daily cycle to my life...). Still, it is interesting. I get most of my news from the nytimes twitter feed for instance as opposed to the print or website. But I think there are a few things worth exploring in this direction. For starters, I wonder why it's so important to have a single paper for your 24-hour newsriver when you have an entire planet of newspapers you could pick for continuous world coverage. Makes the name "planet" for an aggregator of feeds especially apt, although I wish you could use the name The Daily Planet for it. The other problem with the river of news is information overload. Newspapers have often prided ourselves on being the deciders on all the news that's fit to print (admittedly, this is often arrogant and incorrect), but it is very easy to inundate the readers with too much information as well. Even the nytimes twitter feed (not to be confused with Dave Winer's nyt feed) clobbers my views in twitterific with too much stuff. Finding that balance between keeping me informed without overwhelming me or letting me live in a tiny narrow uninformed slice of the world is a real challenge, and I'd love to see how that gets worked out. Ah well, I'm rambling on here before my coffee and probably said some things that were stupid. And I should note that such opinions and questions here are my own and not that of my employer, lest anybody think we speak monolithically... Well, the New York Times does flow some stories into the feeds and website well before the deadline for print journalism, so it’s not entirely radical (the main problem is that management makes the front page look too much like a print newspaper so this flow is lost…). But I still feel there will always be an inherent daily cycle to the newspapers and not a continuous flow (just like there is a daily cycle to my life…). Still, it is interesting. I get most of my news from the nytimes twitter feed for instance as opposed to the print or website.

But I think there are a few things worth exploring in this direction. For starters, I wonder why it’s so important to have a single paper for your 24-hour newsriver when you have an entire planet of newspapers you could pick for continuous world coverage. Makes the name “planet” for an aggregator of feeds especially apt, although I wish you could use the name The Daily Planet for it.

The other problem with the river of news is information overload. Newspapers have often prided ourselves on being the deciders on all the news that’s fit to print (admittedly, this is often arrogant and incorrect), but it is very easy to inundate the readers with too much information as well. Even the nytimes twitter feed (not to be confused with Dave Winer’s nyt feed) clobbers my views in twitterific with too much stuff. Finding that balance between keeping me informed without overwhelming me or letting me live in a tiny narrow uninformed slice of the world is a real challenge, and I’d love to see how that gets worked out.

Ah well, I’m rambling on here before my coffee and probably said some things that were stupid. And I should note that such opinions and questions here are my own and not that of my employer, lest anybody think we speak monolithically…

]]> By: Magnetbox - links for 2007-10-23 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3705 Magnetbox - links for 2007-10-23 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:24:24 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3705 [...] Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. It’s not now. (tags: web news newspaper journalism work idea future) [...] [...] Future to Newspapers: Jump in the river Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. It’s not now. (tags: web news newspaper journalism work idea future) [...]

]]> By: Ganges-River » Blog Archives » Ganges River - Home Page http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3689 Ganges-River » Blog Archives » Ganges River - Home Page Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:37:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/10/19/future-to-newspapers-jump-in-the-river/#comment-3689 [...] Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. … [...] [...] Here’s the problem with most news: it isn’t. It’s olds. It happened hours ago, or last night, or yesterday, or last month, or before whenever the deadline was in the news organization’s current “news cycle”. … [...]

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