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		<title>By: Social Web Strategies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;There are only two platforms&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-64435</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Web Strategies &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;There are only two platforms&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Doc for the pointer, in a January 31 post that I just discovered.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Doc for the pointer, in a January 31 post that I just discovered.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Lewis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24792</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To deb lavoy.  I&#039;ve been &quot;rethinking the meaning of content&quot; for about forty years and changing organizations, policy, and opinions in the process.  &quot;Point missed&quot;, I don&#039;t think so. SL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To deb lavoy.  I&#8217;ve been &#8220;rethinking the meaning of content&#8221; for about forty years and changing organizations, policy, and opinions in the process.  &#8220;Point missed&#8221;, I don&#8217;t think so. SL</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Bzura</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24757</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin Bzura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Here is some video I shot of John Perry Barlow speaking about the internet back in Nov 2006:

http://streamingmarv.wordpress.com/2006/11/14/john-perry-barlow/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Here is some video I shot of John Perry Barlow speaking about the internet back in Nov 2006:</p>
<p><a href="http://streamingmarv.wordpress.com/2006/11/14/john-perry-barlow/" rel="nofollow">http://streamingmarv.wordpress.com/2006/11/14/john-perry-barlow/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24671</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trudy, I&#039;m obviously being unclear. Sorry about that.

The &quot;we&quot; I&#039;m talking about is institutions &#151; mostly big business &#151; that treat individuals like cattle that can be owned and branded and kept captive. 

As I &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/11/26/making-rules-ii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote here&lt;/a&gt;, we see evidence of this in 10,000-word &quot;terms of service&quot; from phone companies that basically say they can cut us off at any time and for any reason they like. We see it in call centers that do everything they can to keep us dependent while not providing more than the most minimal service. We hear it from venture capitalists who ask entrepreneurs &quot;what&#039;s your lock-in&quot; for customers, as if locking customers up is naturally a good thing.

Many of us, when we go to work, do our best to &quot;capture&quot; customers &#151; and then go home and resent it when we&#039;re treated like captives by the companies on which we have no choice but to be dependent.

The &quot;stretch&quot; I wrote about is the difficulty all of us have in seeing past this contradiction. It&#039;s the difficulty that companies have in valuing customers&#039; independence.

A few months ago I was talking to a high-up guy at a major retailer who said they love their customers and do everything they can to own them. I asked him if he knew another word for &quot;owning&quot; a human being. He said, &quot;Oh shit, it&#039;s slavery!&quot; And then he said that in fact the company&#039;s whole CRM &#151; customer relationship management &#151; system was not about relationship at all, but about maintaining customer dependence, on the company&#039;s own terms.

Back farther than that I talked to a marketing VP at a major car rental agency. He told me that he couldn&#039;t imagine any form of customer input other than what the company&#039;s narrow system would allow. &quot;We have consumers, not customers&quot; was his message.

By &quot;independently empowered individual&quot;, I meant somebody who isn&#039;t a slave to the existing system.

What we&#039;re working on at &lt;a href=&quot;http://projectvrm.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ProjectVRM&lt;/a&gt; is providing individuals with tools that make them both independent from companies and better able to engage with companies &#151; on the individual&#039;s own terms, and not just those that companies provide.

We (that is, ProjectVRM) don&#039;t have a better way of saying that yet. It isn&#039;t easy. But it needs to be done. If you want to help, please do.

Also, just because ProjectVRM happens to be headquartered at a center at Harvard doesn&#039;t make it ivy-covered. The only person active in ProjectVRM who happens to be at Harvard is me, and I&#039;m just a fellow there. The university graciously provides me with interns and geeks and a server for our wiki and our blogs and stuff like that. But in the long run we need ProjectVRM to be independent as well.

And we need all the help we can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trudy, I&#8217;m obviously being unclear. Sorry about that.</p>
<p>The &#8220;we&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about is institutions &#8212; mostly big business &#8212; that treat individuals like cattle that can be owned and branded and kept captive. </p>
<p>As I <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2007/11/26/making-rules-ii/" rel="nofollow">wrote here</a>, we see evidence of this in 10,000-word &#8220;terms of service&#8221; from phone companies that basically say they can cut us off at any time and for any reason they like. We see it in call centers that do everything they can to keep us dependent while not providing more than the most minimal service. We hear it from venture capitalists who ask entrepreneurs &#8220;what&#8217;s your lock-in&#8221; for customers, as if locking customers up is naturally a good thing.</p>
<p>Many of us, when we go to work, do our best to &#8220;capture&#8221; customers &#8212; and then go home and resent it when we&#8217;re treated like captives by the companies on which we have no choice but to be dependent.</p>
<p>The &#8220;stretch&#8221; I wrote about is the difficulty all of us have in seeing past this contradiction. It&#8217;s the difficulty that companies have in valuing customers&#8217; independence.</p>
<p>A few months ago I was talking to a high-up guy at a major retailer who said they love their customers and do everything they can to own them. I asked him if he knew another word for &#8220;owning&#8221; a human being. He said, &#8220;Oh shit, it&#8217;s slavery!&#8221; And then he said that in fact the company&#8217;s whole CRM &#8212; customer relationship management &#8212; system was not about relationship at all, but about maintaining customer dependence, on the company&#8217;s own terms.</p>
<p>Back farther than that I talked to a marketing VP at a major car rental agency. He told me that he couldn&#8217;t imagine any form of customer input other than what the company&#8217;s narrow system would allow. &#8220;We have consumers, not customers&#8221; was his message.</p>
<p>By &#8220;independently empowered individual&#8221;, I meant somebody who isn&#8217;t a slave to the existing system.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re working on at <a href="http://projectvrm.org" rel="nofollow">ProjectVRM</a> is providing individuals with tools that make them both independent from companies and better able to engage with companies &#8212; on the individual&#8217;s own terms, and not just those that companies provide.</p>
<p>We (that is, ProjectVRM) don&#8217;t have a better way of saying that yet. It isn&#8217;t easy. But it needs to be done. If you want to help, please do.</p>
<p>Also, just because ProjectVRM happens to be headquartered at a center at Harvard doesn&#8217;t make it ivy-covered. The only person active in ProjectVRM who happens to be at Harvard is me, and I&#8217;m just a fellow there. The university graciously provides me with interns and geeks and a server for our wiki and our blogs and stuff like that. But in the long run we need ProjectVRM to be independent as well.</p>
<p>And we need all the help we can get.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Warot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Warot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,
  Thanks for that pointer... I&#039;ll definitely keep Edward&#039;s ideas in mind the next time I&#039;m writing software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,<br />
  Thanks for that pointer&#8230; I&#8217;ll definitely keep Edward&#8217;s ideas in mind the next time I&#8217;m writing software.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hiser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24506</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Hiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between what we often mean by &#039;content&#039; and &#039;substance&#039; reminds me a bit of Edward Tufte&#039;s distinction between &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/iphone-video.adp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;debris&#039; and &#039;interface.&#039;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between what we often mean by &#8216;content&#8217; and &#8217;substance&#8217; reminds me a bit of Edward Tufte&#8217;s distinction between <a href="http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/iphone-video.adp" rel="nofollow">&#8216;debris&#8217; and &#8216;interface.&#8217;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Schuett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24475</link>
		<dc:creator>Trudy Schuett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t comment on content, but I have to say I&#039;m not particularly comfortable with the term, &quot;independently empowered individual.&quot; 

I had to read that first &#039;graph a couple of times. 

From where I sit in the Sonoran desert, it looks fairly insulting to those of us who live outside the ivy-covered walls.

Please identify this &quot;we&quot; who thinks so little of their fellow human beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t comment on content, but I have to say I&#8217;m not particularly comfortable with the term, &#8220;independently empowered individual.&#8221; </p>
<p>I had to read that first &#8216;graph a couple of times. </p>
<p>From where I sit in the Sonoran desert, it looks fairly insulting to those of us who live outside the ivy-covered walls.</p>
<p>Please identify this &#8220;we&#8221; who thinks so little of their fellow human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24472</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points, Steve.

I wish that, when most of us in the webbed world speak about &quot;content,&quot; we actually mean &quot;the substance of cognition,&quot; or just, well, substance. I remember many years ago working with an especially generic VP — a guy who looked the part, but had nothing of substance to offer. About him one of his workers said, &quot;He has no content.&quot;

Alas, when online marketers today (as Deb points out) talk about &quot;user generated content,&quot; they&#039;re usually talking about something which, for the economic purposes of the medium, is little other than advertising bait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points, Steve.</p>
<p>I wish that, when most of us in the webbed world speak about &#8220;content,&#8221; we actually mean &#8220;the substance of cognition,&#8221; or just, well, substance. I remember many years ago working with an especially generic VP — a guy who looked the part, but had nothing of substance to offer. About him one of his workers said, &#8220;He has no content.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, when online marketers today (as Deb points out) talk about &#8220;user generated content,&#8221; they&#8217;re usually talking about something which, for the economic purposes of the medium, is little other than advertising bait.</p>
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		<title>By: deb louison lavoy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24464</link>
		<dc:creator>deb louison lavoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Lewis - you may be missing the point. While content is not a term invented by the media industry, of late it has certainly been hijacked by it. The democratization of media - the changing roles referenced above - are causing everyone in the marketing, PR, and customer service areas to rethink the meaning, value and utility of content. And that, I think is the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Lewis &#8211; you may be missing the point. While content is not a term invented by the media industry, of late it has certainly been hijacked by it. The democratization of media &#8211; the changing roles referenced above &#8211; are causing everyone in the marketing, PR, and customer service areas to rethink the meaning, value and utility of content. And that, I think is the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Lewis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/31/the-personal-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-24435</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Content is not a &quot;media industry term.&quot; Far from it, content is &quot;... the substance of cognition&quot; (OED).  Content is also what fills vessels (OED again), giving them their significance, the absence of which would render vessels (and meda) absurd.  To take an obvious case, American television is terrible not because of its broadcasting technology but because of its content, i.e. its hideous programming (which can more be blamed on wavelength allocation and advertising-based funding than on  the medium).  Those of us who actually create -- whether in words, concepts, or images -- whether for ourselves or in service to others -- use the possibilities of the media we master exactly to capture and convey content that communicates, inspires, or generates aesthetic or emotional response.  Indeed, it is  often the nature of the content that leads us to chose the medium. In terms of the internet, a medium/content dichotomy might be a guarantor of the independence of individuals&#039; thoughts and images from the concerns and control of those of run the infrastructure. Perhaps weblogs that rail against content should consider publishing blank postings. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Content is not a &#8220;media industry term.&#8221; Far from it, content is &#8220;&#8230; the substance of cognition&#8221; (OED).  Content is also what fills vessels (OED again), giving them their significance, the absence of which would render vessels (and meda) absurd.  To take an obvious case, American television is terrible not because of its broadcasting technology but because of its content, i.e. its hideous programming (which can more be blamed on wavelength allocation and advertising-based funding than on  the medium).  Those of us who actually create &#8212; whether in words, concepts, or images &#8212; whether for ourselves or in service to others &#8212; use the possibilities of the media we master exactly to capture and convey content that communicates, inspires, or generates aesthetic or emotional response.  Indeed, it is  often the nature of the content that leads us to chose the medium. In terms of the internet, a medium/content dichotomy might be a guarantor of the independence of individuals&#8217; thoughts and images from the concerns and control of those of run the infrastructure. Perhaps weblogs that rail against content should consider publishing blank postings. <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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