Comments on: The name is a great start http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/ Same old blog, brand new place Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:23:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.1 By: Holy Moly » Blog Archive » Silobreaker ein anderes netvibes ? http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-29073 Holy Moly » Blog Archive » Silobreaker ein anderes netvibes ? Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:15:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-29073 [...] dieser Woche ersah ich via Doc Searls Weblog (Learned about Silobreaker yesterday from Yochai. It’s an interesting new search engine.) [...] […] dieser Woche ersah ich via Doc Searls Weblog (Learned about Silobreaker yesterday from Yochai. It’s an interesting new search engine.) […]

]]> By: Alan Kellogg http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28677 Alan Kellogg Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:09:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28677 <a href="http://www.kartoo.com/" rel="nofollow">KarTOO</a> is more fun. KarTOO is more fun.

]]> By: Gary Mintchell http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28621 Gary Mintchell Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:54:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28621 Sounds a little like Sprout. I got an invitation to beta. But it just presents me with it selection of news and blogs and I vote them up or down. Supposedly it learns what I like. But I don't have time to train it. And where is the serendipity? Sounds a little like Sprout. I got an invitation to beta. But it just presents me with it selection of news and blogs and I vote them up or down. Supposedly it learns what I like. But I don’t have time to train it. And where is the serendipity?

]]> By: Mike Taht http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28560 Mike Taht Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:33:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28560 Dear Karsten: where I am now, on a lossy, bad connection in Australia, this search for <a href="http://www.silobreaker.com/Search.aspx?q=doc+searls&rd=true" rel="nofollow"> Doc Searls</a> took about 38 seconds to load. It requested 148k of data. I've been places lately where that might have taken even longer.... Compare the time spent searching <a href="http://www.google.com/ie?q=doc+searls&hl=en&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">google's short page for the same thing</a>. Even in the states I imagine this is considerably faster.... Now, I concur that "finding interesting stuff" is a good thing, but it would be really, really, really nice to "find interesting stuff" FAST. re: >I love Silobreaker because it makes me learn and unlearn at the >speed of thought. I'd like to see the speed of thought drop below 1/3 of a second, in the general, worldwide case. 38 seconds is a lot of "question" - Keeeerrrrrthunk - "Answer" time. I've been distressed at seeing global think time being gradually increased from the bare minimum required to establish a tcp connection, to filling your eyeballs up with all sorts of maybe-relevant content... Google's default search page returns 25k in results, the one above, about 6k. I think this silo might be a great client - if as much of it as possible lived on your own machine. Maybe. As for "ads"... well, what is silobreaker's business model? I understand that I have different goals and priorities than any centralized search engine might have.... Sign me, Still grumpy, with a cold war and librarian mindset. Dear Karsten:

where I am now, on a lossy, bad connection in Australia, this search for Doc Searls took about 38 seconds to load. It requested 148k of data. I’ve been places lately where that might have taken even longer….

Compare the time spent searching google’s short page for the same thing. Even in the states I imagine this is considerably faster….

Now, I concur that “finding interesting stuff” is a good thing, but it would be really, really, really nice to “find interesting stuff” FAST.

re:
>I love Silobreaker because it makes me learn and unlearn at the >speed of thought.

I’d like to see the speed of thought drop below 1/3 of a second, in the general, worldwide case. 38 seconds is a lot of “question” - Keeeerrrrrthunk - “Answer” time.

I’ve been distressed at seeing global think time being gradually increased from the bare minimum required to establish a tcp connection, to filling your eyeballs up with all sorts of maybe-relevant content… Google’s default search page returns 25k in results, the one above, about 6k.

I think this silo might be a great client - if as much of it as possible lived on your own machine. Maybe.

As for “ads”… well, what is silobreaker’s business model?

I understand that I have different goals and priorities than any centralized search engine might have….

Sign me,

Still grumpy, with a cold war and librarian mindset.

]]> By: Doc Searls http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28553 Doc Searls Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:56:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28553 Janet, on Google itself, advanced search won't give you a span of time where one end isn't the present. And on Google blogsearch all I can search is blogs, or stuff with RSS feeds. That's not bad. In fact I think it's great; but what I want is to be able to search for many more kinds of stuff than I can search for with any search engine I know. So far. Janet, on Google itself, advanced search won’t give you a span of time where one end isn’t the present. And on Google blogsearch all I can search is blogs, or stuff with RSS feeds. That’s not bad. In fact I think it’s great; but what I want is to be able to search for many more kinds of stuff than I can search for with any search engine I know. So far.

]]> By: The Praized Blog » Blog Archive » Silobreaker: The Future of Online News? http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28545 The Praized Blog » Blog Archive » Silobreaker: The Future of Online News? Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:55:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28545 [...] Silobreaker this morning via Doc Searls blog. It’s a news aggregator with a semantic layer on top. It also has a very interesting user [...] […] Silobreaker this morning via Doc Searls blog. It’s a news aggregator with a semantic layer on top. It also has a very interesting user […]

]]> By: Kristofer Mansson, CEO Silobreaker http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28536 Kristofer Mansson, CEO Silobreaker Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:59:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28536 Thanks for checking out Silobreaker. What might be new insight and knowledge for one user can of course be "old news" and irrelevance for someone else. We are not trying to tell you which is which or pretend that we know what you want, but rather the opposite by providing tools that allow you to see more than just the traditional lists of search hits. That way, you're in the driving seat to explore, filter and drill down on what is (or seems) contextually relevant to you. That's what we mean by delivering "insight" (rather than just search) as a service. Thanks for checking out Silobreaker. What might be new insight and knowledge for one user can of course be “old news” and irrelevance for someone else. We are not trying to tell you which is which or pretend that we know what you want, but rather the opposite by providing tools that allow you to see more than just the traditional lists of search hits. That way, you’re in the driving seat to explore, filter and drill down on what is (or seems) contextually relevant to you. That’s what we mean by delivering “insight” (rather than just search) as a service.

]]> By: Charles Knight http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28531 Charles Knight Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:19:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28531 For a look at Silobreaker and hundreds of other alternative search engine "choices," (we just posted the Top 100 Alternative Search Engines for March) please pay a visit to AltSearchEngines.com. Thanks! Charles Knight, editor AltSearchEngines.com ReadWriteWeb Network For a look at Silobreaker and hundreds of other alternative search engine “choices,” (we just posted the Top 100 Alternative Search Engines for March) please pay a visit to AltSearchEngines.com.

Thanks!

Charles Knight, editor
AltSearchEngines.com
ReadWriteWeb Network

]]> By: Janet http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28529 Janet Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:41:45 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28529 You are dead on about search. I want what I want, not what a search engine thinks i want. As data becomes more available and we become more informed searchers, we will want databases, not just helpful suggestions that use unknown criteria to hook us up. You are dead on about search. I want what I want, not what a search engine thinks i want. As data becomes more available and we become more informed searchers, we will want databases, not just helpful suggestions that use unknown criteria to hook us up.

]]> By: Clooney http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28527 Clooney Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:34:54 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/04/the-name-is-a-great-start/#comment-28527 But doesn't their Advanced Search Options give you the options you want? Seems as if you can pick "Blogs" and any date range... Doesn't seem to have any content from 2005 though. But doesn’t their Advanced Search Options give you the options you want? Seems as if you can pick “Blogs” and any date range… Doesn’t seem to have any content from 2005 though.

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