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		<title>By: Doc Searls Weblog &#183; Familiarity breeds ennui</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-78206</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls Weblog &#183; Familiarity breeds ennui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fear was allayed by the release of Citizen McCaw, and by reading this comment by John Quimby about its premiere. But, as they say, constant vigilance is a price of anything [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28915</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 

Thanks for the update. REALLY wish I had been there. I do miss Santa Barbara, and the rock &amp; roll going on there. Still, it&#039;s good to get reports.

Suggestion: blog it. Tell me here or by email too.

Haven&#039;t been following the News-Press. Should be, though. I&#039;ll add a keyword search to the aggregator now. Thanks again for the report.

I&#039;m going to post something now too.

Okay, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/08/familiarity-breeds-ennui/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here it is&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>Thanks for the update. REALLY wish I had been there. I do miss Santa Barbara, and the rock &amp; roll going on there. Still, it&#8217;s good to get reports.</p>
<p>Suggestion: blog it. Tell me here or by email too.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t been following the News-Press. Should be, though. I&#8217;ll add a keyword search to the aggregator now. Thanks again for the report.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to post something now too.</p>
<p>Okay, <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/08/familiarity-breeds-ennui/" rel="nofollow">here it is</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John Quimby</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28907</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With apologies for blog hogging...

Doc, I don&#039;t know how else to get his to you...

I was there for the premiere of &quot;Citizen McCaw&quot; in Santa Barbara tonight. This is the independent documentary film which chronicles events at the Santa Barbara News Press.

The 2000 seat venue was sold out.  I saw a supportive crowd which included the Mayor and City Council member Das Williams, local news and entertainment figures plus assorted Hollywood types (you can tell by the make up and ward robe) and lots of us regular people.   

Congratulations and thanks to Sam Tyler, who sat in my office all those months ago and told me he was going to go out of pocket to make this film. 

Nice work Sam.         

Lou Cannon (Biographer of Ronald Reagan) was there tonight and was in our studio recently for an interview with NPR. I hope I was able to convey the appreciation of many when I privately thanked him for speaking out.      

It&#039;s easy to be angry about what has happened here. 

Be glad there are people who will risk everything for your right to speak, work and know what is happening in your town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With apologies for blog hogging&#8230;</p>
<p>Doc, I don&#8217;t know how else to get his to you&#8230;</p>
<p>I was there for the premiere of &#8220;Citizen McCaw&#8221; in Santa Barbara tonight. This is the independent documentary film which chronicles events at the Santa Barbara News Press.</p>
<p>The 2000 seat venue was sold out.  I saw a supportive crowd which included the Mayor and City Council member Das Williams, local news and entertainment figures plus assorted Hollywood types (you can tell by the make up and ward robe) and lots of us regular people.   </p>
<p>Congratulations and thanks to Sam Tyler, who sat in my office all those months ago and told me he was going to go out of pocket to make this film. </p>
<p>Nice work Sam.         </p>
<p>Lou Cannon (Biographer of Ronald Reagan) was there tonight and was in our studio recently for an interview with NPR. I hope I was able to convey the appreciation of many when I privately thanked him for speaking out.      </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to be angry about what has happened here. </p>
<p>Be glad there are people who will risk everything for your right to speak, work and know what is happening in your town.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28893</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc 
Great post 
So true ... but how do we intergrate/meld the models of old broadcast (concentration of talent) with the many voices of the web?

Dinner at your place a couple years back
Conversation with Paul Boutin ... my contention that all good writing had to be story telling, the arc, but how to pattern this to current technology, how to tie to the sound-bite model...

Other: flight back from London
No Country for Old men
1) edited out some blood ( I think )
2) small screen ... movie really needs big format, the landscape is one of the characters

Other : eyes : S..t, I&#039;ve had mis-matched set for at least 50 yrs, therefore wear glasses (other than for reading)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc<br />
Great post<br />
So true &#8230; but how do we intergrate/meld the models of old broadcast (concentration of talent) with the many voices of the web?</p>
<p>Dinner at your place a couple years back<br />
Conversation with Paul Boutin &#8230; my contention that all good writing had to be story telling, the arc, but how to pattern this to current technology, how to tie to the sound-bite model&#8230;</p>
<p>Other: flight back from London<br />
No Country for Old men<br />
1) edited out some blood ( I think )<br />
2) small screen &#8230; movie really needs big format, the landscape is one of the characters</p>
<p>Other : eyes : S..t, I&#8217;ve had mis-matched set for at least 50 yrs, therefore wear glasses (other than for reading)</p>
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		<title>By: John Quimby</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28843</link>
		<dc:creator>John Quimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the country is going to Hell...

Dontcha want to see the commercial advertising and marketing campaign that&#039;s going to go with it?

Here&#039;s a preview I co-wrote and produced with Red Rocket Productions for dirtbox.tv. http://www.dirtbox.tv/gth.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the country is going to Hell&#8230;</p>
<p>Dontcha want to see the commercial advertising and marketing campaign that&#8217;s going to go with it?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a preview I co-wrote and produced with Red Rocket Productions for&nbsp;<a href="http://dirtbox.tv" title="http://dirtbox. " target="_blank">dirtbox.tv</a>. <a href="http://www.dirtbox.tv/gth.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.dirtbox.tv/gth.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Warot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28835</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Warot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like knowing we&#039;re going down the drain... but I do know it... 

The empire is going to die... the question is: Can we resurrect the republic before it&#039;s too late?

James Howard Kunstler is right went he frames the suburban sprawl as the greatest missallocation of wealth in history. The &quot;American way  of life&quot; based on cheap gas and diesel is roaring to a close.

What type of country do we want to be?  How can we get there?

I want to be a citizen of a country that cares about people. One that believes that all men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights that derive from respect for life.

Respect for life in a whole sense... not some radicalized pro/anti frame.

A country that isn&#039;t about being on the right side. A country that isn&#039;t about sides at all.

A country that empowered individuals around the world will want to join. A country that represents the best in us, and a bright hope for tomorrow.

May God forgive our sins, and bless the United States of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like knowing we&#8217;re going down the drain&#8230; but I do know it&#8230; </p>
<p>The empire is going to die&#8230; the question is: Can we resurrect the republic before it&#8217;s too late?</p>
<p>James Howard Kunstler is right went he frames the suburban sprawl as the greatest missallocation of wealth in history. The &#8220;American way  of life&#8221; based on cheap gas and diesel is roaring to a close.</p>
<p>What type of country do we want to be?  How can we get there?</p>
<p>I want to be a citizen of a country that cares about people. One that believes that all men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights that derive from respect for life.</p>
<p>Respect for life in a whole sense&#8230; not some radicalized pro/anti frame.</p>
<p>A country that isn&#8217;t about being on the right side. A country that isn&#8217;t about sides at all.</p>
<p>A country that empowered individuals around the world will want to join. A country that represents the best in us, and a bright hope for tomorrow.</p>
<p>May God forgive our sins, and bless the United States of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Leyden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Leyden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The journalist out of touch angle was hit on in a study (not sure if it is a book yet) that had some interesting observations on how journalist have become out of touch, living in &#039;new bohemian urban areas&#039; and socializing more and more with a different class of people than older school folks.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_17_16/ai_62111906

Some interesting points:

Journalists are less likely to form families, have children, go to church, do volunteer community service, own homes and put down roots, says Brown. &quot;How many members of the Los Angeles Times and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch belong to the American Legion or the Kiwanis Club or go to prayer breakfasts?

They also self segregate into certain areas:

&quot;With the help of a &quot;cluster&quot; name supplied by Claritas, Brown placed most media employees into categories that suggest how they see the world. Journalists&#039; ZIP codes reveal they mostly populate neighborhoods with cluster names such as &quot;money and brains&quot; (two-earner couples, expensive condos or town homes, few children, their own hot tub and a yen for jazz and sailing) but avoid rural areas tagged &quot;shotguns and pickups&quot; (low real-estate prices, families who eat Wheaties, drink whiskey and go to auto races or bowl).&quot;

A similar thing has gone on in other fields.  It kind of reminds me of a Tom Wolfe quote about Irish cops, now that so many are moving to suburbs and losing touch with the neighborhoods they patrol.  &quot;These days, if you want a real old-fashioned Irish cop, you hire a Puerto Rican.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The journalist out of touch angle was hit on in a study (not sure if it is a book yet) that had some interesting observations on how journalist have become out of touch, living in &#8216;new bohemian urban areas&#8217; and socializing more and more with a different class of people than older school folks.</p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_17_16/ai_62111906" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_17_16/ai_62111906</a></p>
<p>Some interesting points:</p>
<p>Journalists are less likely to form families, have children, go to church, do volunteer community service, own homes and put down roots, says Brown. &#8220;How many members of the Los Angeles Times and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch belong to the American Legion or the Kiwanis Club or go to prayer breakfasts?</p>
<p>They also self segregate into certain areas:</p>
<p>&#8220;With the help of a &#8220;cluster&#8221; name supplied by Claritas, Brown placed most media employees into categories that suggest how they see the world. Journalists&#8217; ZIP codes reveal they mostly populate neighborhoods with cluster names such as &#8220;money and brains&#8221; (two-earner couples, expensive condos or town homes, few children, their own hot tub and a yen for jazz and sailing) but avoid rural areas tagged &#8220;shotguns and pickups&#8221; (low real-estate prices, families who eat Wheaties, drink whiskey and go to auto races or bowl).&#8221;</p>
<p>A similar thing has gone on in other fields.  It kind of reminds me of a Tom Wolfe quote about Irish cops, now that so many are moving to suburbs and losing touch with the neighborhoods they patrol.  &#8220;These days, if you want a real old-fashioned Irish cop, you hire a Puerto Rican.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/07/the-story-none-dare-tell/comment-page-1/#comment-28752</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!

Wonder if I should leave it?

Funny that Wordpress checks spelling, but I missed it anyway. 

I&#039;d be inclined to ascribe Hidden Meaning to the oversight, but in fact my eyes flat-out suck at close range these days. I hate wearing reading glasses, but I&#039;m making too many of these mistakes and getting too many headaches. Guess I have to break down and get some. (The storebought ones used to be almost good enough, but my eyes are too different from each other, so I need the prescription kind. Grr.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!</p>
<p>Wonder if I should leave it?</p>
<p>Funny that Wordpress checks spelling, but I missed it anyway. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be inclined to ascribe Hidden Meaning to the oversight, but in fact my eyes flat-out suck at close range these days. I hate wearing reading glasses, but I&#8217;m making too many of these mistakes and getting too many headaches. Guess I have to break down and get some. (The storebought ones used to be almost good enough, but my eyes are too different from each other, so I need the prescription kind. Grr.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I&#039;m Canadian, but still appreciate the general overall malaise that affects both countries.

I have to laugh at the irony of the misspelling of &quot;education&quot;, though.

&quot;The high value we place on eduction, on...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I&#8217;m Canadian, but still appreciate the general overall malaise that affects both countries.</p>
<p>I have to laugh at the irony of the misspelling of &#8220;education&#8221;, though.</p>
<p>&#8220;The high value we place on eduction, on&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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