Comments on: Cluetrainings http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/ Same old blog, brand new place Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:17:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lingolook » Blog Archive » My take on Cluetrain http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-82694 Lingolook » Blog Archive » My take on Cluetrain Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:05:27 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-82694 [...] Cluetrainings - Doc Searls - Here are the slides from the Cluetrain @ 10 talk I gave at There’sa New Conversation, in New York last month and a video of the talk… [...] [...] Cluetrainings – Doc Searls – Here are the slides from the Cluetrain @ 10 talk I gave at There’sa New Conversation, in New York last month and a video of the talk… [...]

]]> By: Lingolook » My take on Cluetrain http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-48906 Lingolook » My take on Cluetrain Wed, 07 May 2008 13:45:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-48906 [...] Cluetrainings - Doc Searls - Here are the slides from the Cluetrain @ 10 talk I gave at There’sa New Conversation, in New York last month and a video of the talk… [...] [...] Cluetrainings – Doc Searls – Here are the slides from the Cluetrain @ 10 talk I gave at There’sa New Conversation, in New York last month and a video of the talk… [...]

]]> By: Mary Schmidt Marketing Troubleshooter » The “I’d Take A Bullet For Them” List http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-29476 Mary Schmidt Marketing Troubleshooter » The “I’d Take A Bullet For Them” List Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:01:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-29476 [...] people the light. Doc Searls would have never written The Cluetrain Manifesto, much less now be talking about Clueship. Seth Godin would be bookless. And so [...] [...] people the light. Doc Searls would have never written The Cluetrain Manifesto, much less now be talking about Clueship. Seth Godin would be bookless. And so [...]

]]> By: Jeff Risley http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-29386 Jeff Risley Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:28:46 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-29386 Thanks, Doc, for this walk down memory lane and for evangelising the Cluetrain promise again. It's needed. While you've been preaching the Cluetrain gospel for years now, hoping for adoption, I'm afraid what we've gotten in many cases is derivative religions, some of which are advertising-radical. As a disciple, I've walked the straight and narrow, but I can't say the same for many of my PR-firm brethren or the corporate congregations I work with. Many seem to want the easy path (advertising) to their salvation (more "consumers"). Religious metaphors aside, selling clients on the idea of social media and the internet as a long-term, customer-relationship-builder is harder than selling it as a short-term, consumer-revenue-builder, but just because it's harder doesn't mean it's not right. Thanks, Doc, for this walk down memory lane and for evangelising the Cluetrain promise again. It’s needed. While you’ve been preaching the Cluetrain gospel for years now, hoping for adoption, I’m afraid what we’ve gotten in many cases is derivative religions, some of which are advertising-radical. As a disciple, I’ve walked the straight and narrow, but I can’t say the same for many of my PR-firm brethren or the corporate congregations I work with. Many seem to want the easy path (advertising) to their salvation (more “consumers”). Religious metaphors aside, selling clients on the idea of social media and the internet as a long-term, customer-relationship-builder is harder than selling it as a short-term, consumer-revenue-builder, but just because it’s harder doesn’t mean it’s not right.

]]> By: Gregory Yankelovich http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-29375 Gregory Yankelovich Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:24:45 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-29375 Doc, I got involved with CRM concepts and systems about 12 years ago because I saw an opportunity of truly improving relationship between suppliers and customers, i.e. people in marketplace. It surely sounds pretty naive to you, but I think it is a matter of intent and implementation rather than fundamental flaw in concept. This is not intended to debate the value of VRM concept at all. I wonder how these two strategies could be viewed constructively. You have mentioned in your presentation that VRM Project may use some volunteer help, how can I learn more? Doc,

I got involved with CRM concepts and systems about 12 years ago because I saw an opportunity of truly improving relationship between suppliers and customers, i.e. people in marketplace. It surely sounds pretty naive to you, but I think it is a matter of intent and implementation rather than fundamental flaw in concept.

This is not intended to debate the value of VRM concept at all. I wonder how these two strategies could be viewed constructively. You have mentioned in your presentation that VRM Project may use some volunteer help, how can I learn more?

]]> By: Mark Scrimshire http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/comment-page-1/#comment-29351 Mark Scrimshire Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:00:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/03/14/cluetrainings/#comment-29351 Doc, Page 38 - spelling error Patries - I assume should be Parties. BTW - I Love slide 36 on healthcare - you nailed it! I am wanting to push the links between personal health records and data portability. Health is just another subset of MY data. http://ekive.blogspot.com/2008/01/blogging-with-courage.html Doc,

Page 38 – spelling error Patries – I assume should be Parties.

BTW – I Love slide 36 on healthcare – you nailed it!

I am wanting to push the links between personal health records and data portability. Health is just another subset of MY data.

http://ekive.blogspot.com/2008/01/blogging-with-courage.html

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