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		<title>By: Bill Kinnon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/09/out-but-not-quite-about/comment-page-1/#comment-42676</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc,
I&#039;ve been off-line for the better part of three weeks and you&#039;re freaking me out.

Know that I&#039;m praying for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc,<br />
I&#8217;ve been off-line for the better part of three weeks and you&#8217;re freaking me out.</p>
<p>Know that I&#8217;m praying for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Burstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/09/out-but-not-quite-about/comment-page-1/#comment-38434</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Burstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc

There&#039;s a scare in a note above about PE, but the facts are fortunately much more encouraging. 

After you make it two or three days and are on blood thinners, you usually do just fine and the risks immediately go lower. Without more details I&#039;m guessing, but based on what I found in the literature the odds are better than 90% you&#039;ve live until something else catches up with you. 

A few things to remember. 

They&#039;ll probably keep you on blood thinners for six months to prevent another clot, and you&#039;ll have to monitor that closely with blood tests. Coumadin or whatever you take has a very thin margin between the dose that protects you and the dose that raises your risk of other problems, so they have to check often. 

The one thing some doctors should recommend but sometimes don&#039;t is to wear medical grade &quot;compression socks.&quot; To my amazement, the medical studies on this show a significant decrease in future PE from the simple, non toxic intervention. &quot;Support hose&quot; are similar, but the medical ones go up to the knee and are made more carefully. They actually are quite comfortable and feel good, although you have to learn to put them on. 

Down the line, you&#039;ll have to make some decisions about blood thinners and/or aspirin for further prevention.  Avoiding airplanes for a while is probably a good idea, as is walking around and stretching when you do go back to flying. There&#039;ll be especially careful in any future surgery you have, sometimes installing a removable shunt during certain procedures. Do tell your dentist when you&#039;re on blood thinners. It&#039;s probably not dangerous, but you will bleed more.

    The key takeaway I want to leave you with is that a clot with an obvious cause (your flight) has a much better prognosis than one that arises without evident cause. If the clot forms after flying, beneath the cast of a broken leg, etc. that means recurrence risk is much lower.  

    Best of luck, and give me a call if you want some reassurance from a friend who&#039;s done very well despite.

Dave Burstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a scare in a note above about PE, but the facts are fortunately much more encouraging. </p>
<p>After you make it two or three days and are on blood thinners, you usually do just fine and the risks immediately go lower. Without more details I&#8217;m guessing, but based on what I found in the literature the odds are better than 90% you&#8217;ve live until something else catches up with you. </p>
<p>A few things to remember. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ll probably keep you on blood thinners for six months to prevent another clot, and you&#8217;ll have to monitor that closely with blood tests. Coumadin or whatever you take has a very thin margin between the dose that protects you and the dose that raises your risk of other problems, so they have to check often. </p>
<p>The one thing some doctors should recommend but sometimes don&#8217;t is to wear medical grade &#8220;compression socks.&#8221; To my amazement, the medical studies on this show a significant decrease in future PE from the simple, non toxic intervention. &#8220;Support hose&#8221; are similar, but the medical ones go up to the knee and are made more carefully. They actually are quite comfortable and feel good, although you have to learn to put them on. </p>
<p>Down the line, you&#8217;ll have to make some decisions about blood thinners and/or aspirin for further prevention.  Avoiding airplanes for a while is probably a good idea, as is walking around and stretching when you do go back to flying. There&#8217;ll be especially careful in any future surgery you have, sometimes installing a removable shunt during certain procedures. Do tell your dentist when you&#8217;re on blood thinners. It&#8217;s probably not dangerous, but you will bleed more.</p>
<p>    The key takeaway I want to leave you with is that a clot with an obvious cause (your flight) has a much better prognosis than one that arises without evident cause. If the clot forms after flying, beneath the cast of a broken leg, etc. that means recurrence risk is much lower.  </p>
<p>    Best of luck, and give me a call if you want some reassurance from a friend who&#8217;s done very well despite.</p>
<p>Dave Burstein</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin OKeefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin OKeefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take care Doc, we cannot afford to lose you. Relax and enjoy what may be warm weather headed your way from a 70 degree day in Seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take care Doc, we cannot afford to lose you. Relax and enjoy what may be warm weather headed your way from a 70 degree day in Seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Connor Clarke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/09/out-but-not-quite-about/comment-page-1/#comment-36300</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael O'Connor Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey, Doc - I had no idea. Been flat out the last three days, and way behind on my reed feading (for a change).

Please - do what Halley and others are saying here: take it easy, for at least a couple of weeks. You&#039;re way too valuable to us all, Doc.  

Never mind Ray K popping pills to stretch out his time &#039;till the singularity cometh - I just want to see you hang around long enough for everyone to have read, understood, digested, believed in, and acted upon worldofends.com. That&#039;s a singularity I can get behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey, Doc &#8211; I had no idea. Been flat out the last three days, and way behind on my reed feading (for a change).</p>
<p>Please &#8211; do what Halley and others are saying here: take it easy, for at least a couple of weeks. You&#8217;re way too valuable to us all, Doc.  </p>
<p>Never mind Ray K popping pills to stretch out his time &#8217;till the singularity cometh &#8211; I just want to see you hang around long enough for everyone to have read, understood, digested, believed in, and acted upon&nbsp;<a href="http://worldofends.com" title="http://worldofends. " target="_blank">worldofends.com</a>. That&#8217;s a singularity I can get behind.</p>
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		<title>By: John Stanforth</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stanforth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best wishes, Doc.  Glad to hear you&#039;re on the mend.  I still owe you a cup of coffee (or something healthier maybe) when you&#039;re back in Santa Barbara.  Or maybe we&#039;ll go for a short walk instead of sitting somewhere. :-)  Take care.

PS: Maybe a photowalk?  I got the Canon 5D last year, as you recommended to me at the last Bloggercon.  Excellent advice, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best wishes, Doc.  Glad to hear you&#8217;re on the mend.  I still owe you a cup of coffee (or something healthier maybe) when you&#8217;re back in Santa Barbara.  Or maybe we&#8217;ll go for a short walk instead of sitting somewhere. <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Take care.</p>
<p>PS: Maybe a photowalk?  I got the Canon 5D last year, as you recommended to me at the last Bloggercon.  Excellent advice, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trump, are you Charles Lee, perhaps? If not, he can be my beer proxy for you there. Great guy, and an ideal ex-pat docent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump, are you Charles Lee, perhaps? If not, he can be my beer proxy for you there. Great guy, and an ideal ex-pat docent.</p>
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		<title>By: Trump</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/09/out-but-not-quite-about/comment-page-1/#comment-36274</link>
		<dc:creator>Trump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a beer, bro, love from downtown Bangkok......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a beer, bro, love from downtown Bangkok&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vanderwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanderwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, very fortunate. I am wishing you well on your recovery and take it easy. If you need anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, very fortunate. I am wishing you well on your recovery and take it easy. If you need anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Griffes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/09/out-but-not-quite-about/comment-page-1/#comment-36270</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Griffes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a huge fan. You are an inspiration to many people. 

I second the points made by Harl regarding the link between PE&#039;s and airline flights - Henry&#039;s Law in relation to Decompression Sickness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry%27s_Law; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness. 

Might be worth reconsidering any future travel plans that require an airplane.

Get well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge fan. You are an inspiration to many people. </p>
<p>I second the points made by Harl regarding the link between PE&#8217;s and airline flights &#8211; Henry&#8217;s Law in relation to Decompression Sickness: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry%27s_Law" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry%27s_Law</a>; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decompression_sickness</a>. </p>
<p>Might be worth reconsidering any future travel plans that require an airplane.</p>
<p>Get well!</p>
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		<title>By: Too many topics, too little time. &#187; Doc Searls Weblog · Out but not quite about</title>
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		<dc:creator>Too many topics, too little time. &#187; Doc Searls Weblog · Out but not quite about</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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