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	<title>Comments on: Free Grand Canyon Plane Tour</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-41883</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like smokers vs non-smokers, perhaps there could be front of plane for 'cinema priority seats, where blinds are to be closed if light affects  screen' and rear of plane for 'window priority seats, where blinds must be left open if t least one in three adjacent passengers so desire'.

I don't think it matters whether there is an objective argument in favour of the superior view outside the aircraft. If the majority want to watch Alien V in spooky darkness, it's a matter of balancing liberties, not aesthetics.

Sic transit gloria mundi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like smokers vs non-smokers, perhaps there could be front of plane for &#8216;cinema priority seats, where blinds are to be closed if light affects  screen&#8217; and rear of plane for &#8216;window priority seats, where blinds must be left open if t least one in three adjacent passengers so desire&#8217;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it matters whether there is an objective argument in favour of the superior view outside the aircraft. If the majority want to watch Alien V in spooky darkness, it&#8217;s a matter of balancing liberties, not aesthetics.</p>
<p>Sic transit gloria mundi.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-41881</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, J.

I took the bait because it reminded me to beef about something that had been on my mind for awhile. I'll resist next time. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, J.</p>
<p>I took the bait because it reminded me to beef about something that had been on my mind for awhile. I&#8217;ll resist next time. <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-41845</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc,

Two things:

1) It SCARES me how good of photos you would take if it were through no glass at all... you get unbelievable plane shots shooting through 3 layers of garbage. So glad you posted some info on shooting method and equipment. The pics I've taken from planes never turn out anywhere near this good.

2) The only asshat thing you have done here is respond to a troll on your comments. Screw the movie, its your window shade you should do what you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc,</p>
<p>Two things:</p>
<p>1) It SCARES me how good of photos you would take if it were through no glass at all&#8230; you get unbelievable plane shots shooting through 3 layers of garbage. So glad you posted some info on shooting method and equipment. The pics I&#8217;ve taken from planes never turn out anywhere near this good.</p>
<p>2) The only asshat thing you have done here is respond to a troll on your comments. Screw the movie, its your window shade you should do what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-41482</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc

"If planes were just flying theaters, they wouldn’t have windows."

LOL

I suspect that they would be much easier/cheaper to build sans the holes in the walls.

An objection to designs for blended wings 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_wing_body) is lack of windows for passengers.

And I think that for most, windows are more for a "sense of comfort" and viewed only near take off and landings.

But that applies to those who just want to get somewhere, maybe be plied with drinks on the way.

Ciao
Chip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc</p>
<p>&#8220;If planes were just flying theaters, they wouldn’t have windows.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>I suspect that they would be much easier/cheaper to build sans the holes in the walls.</p>
<p>An objection to designs for blended wings<br />
&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_wing_body" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_wing_body" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_win&#8230;</a>) is lack of windows for passengers.</p>
<p>And I think that for most, windows are more for a &#8220;sense of comfort&#8221; and viewed only near take off and landings.</p>
<p>But that applies to those who just want to get somewhere, maybe be plied with drinks on the way.</p>
<p>Ciao<br />
Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Brenegar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40806</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Brenegar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pictures! Reminds me of a flight from Atlanta to LA in 2000 where the pilot had to waste some time, so he did two banked loops around the Grand Canyon, one for the right side of the plane, and one for the left. It was fabulous. And we still got in a half hour early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pictures! Reminds me of a flight from Atlanta to LA in 2000 where the pilot had to waste some time, so he did two banked loops around the Grand Canyon, one for the right side of the plane, and one for the left. It was fabulous. And we still got in a half hour early.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40794</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factor: the new Boeing 787s have extra big windows to make the view better.

Fact is, airplanes are flying tour busses, theaters, restaurants, bedrooms and waiting areas. Reconciling all of those functions requires a modicum of manners on all sides.

What I object to is the assumption, carried by instructions given on a &lt;i&gt;pro forma&lt;/i&gt; basis, as if it were in the same class as safety notices, for "those with window seats to close your shades as a courtesy". That instruction contradicts the practice of offering and providing window seating for those who want it. If planes were just flying theaters, they wouldn't have windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factor: the new Boeing 787s have extra big windows to make the view better.</p>
<p>Fact is, airplanes are flying tour busses, theaters, restaurants, bedrooms and waiting areas. Reconciling all of those functions requires a modicum of manners on all sides.</p>
<p>What I object to is the assumption, carried by instructions given on a <i>pro forma</i> basis, as if it were in the same class as safety notices, for &#8220;those with window seats to close your shades as a courtesy&#8221;. That instruction contradicts the practice of offering and providing window seating for those who want it. If planes were just flying theaters, they wouldn&#8217;t have windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Downes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40780</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; I do know I refused, as I usually do, to close my windowshade to reduce ambient light on the ancient crappy ceiling-mounted TV screens

I know, they do that to me to. I explain to them that I asked for a window seat specifically so I could look out the window.

I leave my window open. It's my $1000 seat, I'll decide whether or not I want to look out the window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I do know I refused, as I usually do, to close my windowshade to reduce ambient light on the ancient crappy ceiling-mounted TV screens</p>
<p>I know, they do that to me to. I explain to them that I asked for a window seat specifically so I could look out the window.</p>
<p>I leave my window open. It&#8217;s my $1000 seat, I&#8217;ll decide whether or not I want to look out the window.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40774</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bipper,

Actually, when there isn't a spectacle outside, I do close, or mostly close, my window screens. I am not without manners on the matter. It's a judgement call. Maybe I should have made that clearer.

For what it's worth, having window shades open often makes no difference to the screens on the ceiling. It depends, though.  

In any case, does that make me less of an asshat to you? Or does the insult stand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bipper,</p>
<p>Actually, when there isn&#8217;t a spectacle outside, I do close, or mostly close, my window screens. I am not without manners on the matter. It&#8217;s a judgement call. Maybe I should have made that clearer.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, having window shades open often makes no difference to the screens on the ceiling. It depends, though.  </p>
<p>In any case, does that make me less of an asshat to you? Or does the insult stand?</p>
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		<title>By: Bipper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40773</link>
		<dc:creator>Bipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'though I do know I refused, as I usually do, to close my windowshade to reduce ambient light on the ancient crappy ceiling-mounted TV screens'

Yeah - stick it to the man Doc. Asshat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;though I do know I refused, as I usually do, to close my windowshade to reduce ambient light on the ancient crappy ceiling-mounted TV screens&#8217;</p>
<p>Yeah - stick it to the man Doc. Asshat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/04/21/free-grand-canyon-plane-tour/#comment-40769</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc
nice work!

Forwarded same to associate who just hiked it (only a few years behind us)

Ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc<br />
nice work!</p>
<p>Forwarded same to associate who just hiked it (only a few years behind us)</p>
<p>Ciao</p>
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