Comments on: A light on the end of the tunnel http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/ Same old blog, brand new place Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:52:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: IT Value Stack http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-56001 IT Value Stack Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:41:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-56001 <strong>From the Industrial Age to the Information Age...</strong> Doc Searles at Harvard Law writes:I’ve long believed that the crossover from the Industrial Age to the Information Age will be marked by an awakening to the need by customers to control their own selves, rather than to remain subordinated... From the Industrial Age to the Information Age…

Doc Searles at Harvard Law writes:I’ve long believed that the crossover from the Industrial Age to the Information Age will be marked by an awakening to the need by customers to control their own selves, rather than to remain subordinated…

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50881 Crosbie Fitch Tue, 13 May 2008 21:10:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50881 Our personal data is 'theirs' if we give it to them: http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=117 Our personal data is ‘theirs’ if we give it to them: http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=117

]]> By: Mike Warot http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50810 Mike Warot Tue, 13 May 2008 13:45:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50810 Now more than ever, our data is fluid, like the news. My email address can change on a whim, this means that if a company offends me in some way, I'll just refuse to give them the new one. The data locked up in their CRM just became <i>stale</i>, which is the curse of death... (actually... it IS death) If a company wants to keep up with me, they have to play nice, and support a relationship, otherwise they end up as fishwrap, or at the bottom of the bird cage. --Mike-- Now more than ever, our data is fluid, like the news. My email address can change on a whim, this means that if a company offends me in some way, I’ll just refuse to give them the new one. The data locked up in their CRM just became stale, which is the curse of death… (actually… it IS death)

If a company wants to keep up with me, they have to play nice, and support a relationship, otherwise they end up as fishwrap, or at the bottom of the bird cage.
–Mike–

]]> By: david cushman http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50757 david cushman Tue, 13 May 2008 08:34:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50757 Doc, we are our data. Ownership of that by others is, as you suggest, part of the mindset of an industrialised world. When our data can connect us to others who share our purpose without mediation, then the vision will become reality - then communities of purpose will become the business units of the future. Doc, we are our data. Ownership of that by others is, as you suggest, part of the mindset of an industrialised world.
When our data can connect us to others who share our purpose without mediation, then the vision will become reality - then communities of purpose will become the business units of the future.

]]> By: Jon Garfunkel http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50582 Jon Garfunkel Mon, 12 May 2008 13:10:40 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/05/12/a-light-on-the-end-of-the-tunnel/#comment-50582 FYI, Deborah Tannen mined the lore of warlike metaphors in contemporary language a decade ago in <i>The Argument Culture</i>. I don't think of social network apps "controlling my data." Facebook <i>commands my attention</i> because it has *other people's data.* Or rather, other people's ephemera. (We need to start making distinctions here.) Also, if you insist on exclusively controlling your data, you need to rent it out each time. Do you want your social network apps to forget all of your data between sessions, and ask you again for it when you log back in? (You say "the end of that day I want all walled gardeners to use my data at my grace." Literally you mean, at the *start* of the day since you'll have to rent it out each time.) I'll grant that there is certainly a problem today with 3rd-party apps which ask for data, but aren't clear at all on what they're asking for (see <a href="http://civilities.net/Facebook_Application_Privacy" rel="nofollow">How to fix third party facebook application settings</a>). FYI, Deborah Tannen mined the lore of warlike metaphors in contemporary language a decade ago in The Argument Culture.

I don’t think of social network apps “controlling my data.” Facebook commands my attention because it has *other people’s data.* Or rather, other people’s ephemera. (We need to start making distinctions here.)

Also, if you insist on exclusively controlling your data, you need to rent it out each time. Do you want your social network apps to forget all of your data between sessions, and ask you again for it when you log back in? (You say “the end of that day I want all walled gardeners to use my data at my grace.” Literally you mean, at the *start* of the day since you’ll have to rent it out each time.)

I’ll grant that there is certainly a problem today with 3rd-party apps which ask for data, but aren’t clear at all on what they’re asking for (see How to fix third party facebook application settings).

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