Comments on: Call it a micki

By: Doc Searls Weblog · Outlining in MediaWiki

Doc Searls Weblog · Outlining in MediaWiki — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:33:01 +0000

[...] this month I blogged about something I’d like called a “Micki”: a wiki that works like an outliner. Now, thanks to mind-opening help from Dave, I’m looking [...]

By: Aaron Barnhart

Aaron Barnhart — Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:01:31 +0000

Really? I distinctly remember dumping MORE the moment I started working with Aldus Persuasion. I could just seamlessly move from outline to thumbnail to single page views and shift points around — once I mastered Persuasion I was (pardon the sideways pun) the toast of the marketing department.

Of course, where is THAT app now ….

By: John Zeisler

John Zeisler — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:34:56 +0000

I liked ThinkTank and loved MORE. Nothing like it since. Would love to see where this idea goes.

By: Dave Winer

Dave Winer — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:44:30 +0000

Sorry for not checking back here sooner.

My email is dave dot winer at gmail dot com.

You can download the Windows source here.

http://editor.opml.org/kernel/

The build instructions for Windows are there too.

Probably the easiest way to get started porting to Linux is to use the WINE libraries. People have had some success with quick two-hour builds. If you put a week or two into it, I bet the whole thing would port. I’m not a Linux programmer or else I’d do it myself. My C gears are so rusty I can’t even work on the Windows version. If someone resurrected THINK C then I’d be in business!

To Doc, I’m into taking a very long term view of this project. We have a very strong basis in content management and outlining and there’s a built-in web server, and good tools to connect to Apache and the XML-RPC connect to Python is very good. Lots of good places to pick up the project you want as a user, to create web editing nirvana for an outliner guy (like both of us).

By: Britt Blaser

Britt Blaser — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:02:21 +0000

I posted a description of how we’re providing this in ORGware at
http://www.newgov.us/8_294_0__Posts-&-Comments-outlined-aggregated-and-editable.html

It offers an aggregated outline view of posts and comments, arranged by tags. And it does so because I too was a dedicated MORE user.

By: Doc Searls

Doc Searls — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:32:45 +0000

Thanks, Dave.

I’ve tried pushing that before and not much happened; but times have changed, and I’d like to have another go at it. Let’s talk after Xmas about it.

Britt, I think your whole comment didn’t quite make it.

By: Mike Warot

Mike Warot — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:56:11 +0000

I tried it on the train on the way home, help doesn’t work when you are offline… 8(

Where is the source available from? I tried a google search.

By: Keith Dick

Keith Dick — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:32:22 +0000

Dave:

I might be able to help with the port to Linux and maintenance.

If you would like to discuss the possibilities, write to me using my Yahoo email address keithdick.

(I couldn’t find a way to contact you privately on your site, which is why I’m trying to contact you this way.)

By: Britt Blaser

Britt Blaser — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:06:17 +0000

I posted a description of how we’re providing this in ORGware at .

By: Dave Winer

Dave Winer — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:01:19 +0000

Doc, the OPML Editor is open source, GPL.

It also does almost everything MORE did, as an outliner.

I’ve submitted a proposal to present at OSCON about the open source project, hoping to recruit developers for a Linux port and to maintain the C code base with me.

Maybe this is something you’d like to get involved with?