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	<title>Comments on: Cox Tech Hell, Day 21</title>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls Weblog &#183; What&#8217;s 10,241,704.22kb between ex-friends?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-214237</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls Weblog &#183; What&#8217;s 10,241,704.22kb between ex-friends?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Santa Barbara for weeks after I got back there in June. I wrote about that here, here, here, here and here. So I used my Sprint datacard a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Santa Barbara for weeks after I got back there in June. I wrote about that here, here, here, here and here. So I used my Sprint datacard a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ManyMedia &#187; Promoting Creativity and Connection</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-193794</link>
		<dc:creator>ManyMedia &#187; Promoting Creativity and Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problem with AT&amp;T, the FCC’s problem with Apple + AT&amp;T together, my own problems with Cox, Dish Network and Sprint, David Pogue’s problem with the whole freaking cell phone industry … [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problem with AT&amp;T, the FCC’s problem with Apple + AT&amp;T together, my own problems with Cox, Dish Network and Sprint, David Pogue’s problem with the whole freaking cell phone industry … [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ProjectVRM Blog &#187; Dawn of the Living Infrastructure</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProjectVRM Blog &#187; Dawn of the Living Infrastructure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problem with AT&amp;T, the FCC&#8217;s problem with Apple + AT&amp;T together, my own problems with Cox, Dish Network and Sprint, David Pogue&#8217;s problem with the whole freaking cell phone industry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problem with AT&amp;T, the FCC&#8217;s problem with Apple + AT&amp;T together, my own problems with Cox, Dish Network and Sprint, David Pogue&#8217;s problem with the whole freaking cell phone industry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-187448</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got a call from one of the WISPs I sent emails asking for quotes. Covad. Nice guy. Had a good talk. 6Mb symmetrical, max (better on the upstream than Cox). Didn&#039;t ask for a quote, because I don&#039;t have line of sight to either of their local nodes: one at Painted Cave and the other on Gibraltar Peak. Even though my house is 500 feet up, with a view of downtown and 180° of coastal land and Pacific Ocean (a &quot;five island&quot; view they call it), I&#039;m terrain shadowed. This is bad even for VHF and UHF, but for 5.x GHz and up, forget it. We&#039;ll see how the others do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got a call from one of the WISPs I sent emails asking for quotes. Covad. Nice guy. Had a good talk. 6Mb symmetrical, max (better on the upstream than Cox). Didn&#8217;t ask for a quote, because I don&#8217;t have line of sight to either of their local nodes: one at Painted Cave and the other on Gibraltar Peak. Even though my house is 500 feet up, with a view of downtown and 180° of coastal land and Pacific Ocean (a &#8220;five island&#8221; view they call it), I&#8217;m terrain shadowed. This is bad even for VHF and UHF, but for 5.x GHz and up, forget it. We&#8217;ll see how the others do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-186984</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc, one of the reasons that independent ISPs often play their cards close to their vests is that the more they reveal, the more they expose themselves to anticompetitive tactics from the telephone and cable incumbents. So, don&#039;t be to hard on them for not putting everything on their sites. Get quotes. I&#039;m sure there&#039;s no charge for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc, one of the reasons that independent ISPs often play their cards close to their vests is that the more they reveal, the more they expose themselves to anticompetitive tactics from the telephone and cable incumbents. So, don&#8217;t be to hard on them for not putting everything on their sites. Get quotes. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s no charge for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-186386</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Brett.

Covadwireless looks attractive if they really do provide solid 6Mbps symmetrical data rates. Same for Impulse if they really do 9Mbps symmetrical. Neither, however, discloses prices. To your great credit, LARIAT &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lariat.net/rates.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;does provide prices&lt;/a&gt; -- and attractive ones. The vibe I get off these other two tells me they have something to hide. Still, I&#039;m interested in doing a fair comparison. FWIW, I&#039;m getting top speeds of 20/4Mbps from Cox currently. Usually runs more like 18/3.7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Brett.</p>
<p>Covadwireless looks attractive if they really do provide solid 6Mbps symmetrical data rates. Same for Impulse if they really do 9Mbps symmetrical. Neither, however, discloses prices. To your great credit, LARIAT <a href="http://www.lariat.net/rates.html" rel="nofollow">does provide prices</a> &#8212; and attractive ones. The vibe I get off these other two tells me they have something to hide. Still, I&#8217;m interested in doing a fair comparison. FWIW, I&#8217;m getting top speeds of 20/4Mbps from Cox currently. Usually runs more like 18/3.7.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-184723</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try http://www.covadwireless.com/ or http://impulse.net/. I&#039;m sure there are others too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try <a href="http://www.covadwireless.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.covadwireless.com/</a> or <a href="http://impulse.net/" rel="nofollow">http://impulse.net/</a>. I&#8217;m sure there are others too.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-184486</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Searls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno, Brett. Last I looked the only choices were Cox, Verizon and other companies piggy-backing on those companies&#039; infrastructure. But I&#039;ll check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno, Brett. Last I looked the only choices were Cox, Verizon and other companies piggy-backing on those companies&#8217; infrastructure. But I&#8217;ll check.</p>
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		<title>By: ross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-184484</link>
		<dc:creator>ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe you could get one of those A list bloggers to blog about it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe you could get one of those A list bloggers to blog about it</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2009/07/08/cox-tech-hell-day-21/comment-page-1/#comment-184464</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc, do you really have no WISPs in your area who say they can cover you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc, do you really have no WISPs in your area who say they can cover you?</p>
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