Comments on: How the Internet becomes the Content-o-net http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/ Same old blog, brand new place Sun, 19 May 2013 15:09:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: silvio.greco » Bar Rafaeli http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-235791 silvio.greco » Bar Rafaeli Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:14:27 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-235791 [...] How the Internet becomes the Content-o-net [...] [...] How the Internet becomes the Content-o-net [...]

]]> By: Berkman Buzz | BlogHalt.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-235002 Berkman Buzz | BlogHalt.com Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:17:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-235002 [...] * Doc Searls connects the dots of the Content-o-net: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/ [...] [...] * Doc Searls connects the dots of the Content-o-net: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/ [...]

]]> By: Berkman Buzz | BlogHalt.com http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-235003 Berkman Buzz | BlogHalt.com Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:17:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-235003 [...] * Doc Searls connects the dots of the Content-o-net: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/ [...] [...] * Doc Searls connects the dots of the Content-o-net: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/ [...]

]]> By: Brett Glass http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234450 Brett Glass Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:23:19 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234450 No, "Dr. No," stopping crime doesn't constitute censorship. No, “Dr. No,” stopping crime doesn’t constitute censorship.

]]> By: Unrestricted open Internet access is a top foreign policy for the US « digiphile http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234427 Unrestricted open Internet access is a top foreign policy for the US « digiphile Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:48:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234427 [...] concert with NGOs, private companies and citizens. Doc Searls warned that we must be careful, lest the Internet become a “Cinternet.” MacKinnon looked last week at whether China’s demands for Internet [...] [...] concert with NGOs, private companies and citizens. Doc Searls warned that we must be careful, lest the Internet become a “Cinternet.” MacKinnon looked last week at whether China’s demands for Internet [...]

]]> By: Dr No http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234323 Dr No Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:36:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234323 @Brett Glass - the only thing you care about is "clear your conscience"?? WTF?? That's the same as asking telephone companies to be responsible for crimes coordinated via their lines. So they need to listen in or censor every call? I guess you are one of the "I don't need curtains, I have nothing to hide" type of person. Thing is, across the globe - free speech is currently going down the drain after a big high in the last years. Companies that make globally seen, little money (and if they make - it goes to them, not the artists) are able to shape how a whole world is communicating? Give me a break - all political parties - love the idea of being able to censor what is said and done. Starting from Berlusconi, to Australia, the TSA in the US whenever they make something strange, the Chinese Government to protect people getting to know their crimes, companies using the DMCA to protect customers from knowing dangerous flaws in their products sold etc etc. Man wake up. Soon you will not be able any more to "do creative work" on your own and publish on the internet. Since nobody will let you unless it comes through a big corporation...but hey - since you can't publish nobody can steal it! Way to hell is plastered with good intentions.... @Brett Glass – the only thing you care about is “clear your conscience”??

WTF??

That’s the same as asking telephone companies to be responsible for crimes coordinated via their lines. So they need to listen in or censor every call?

I guess you are one of the “I don’t need curtains, I have nothing to hide” type of person.

Thing is, across the globe – free speech is currently going down the drain after a big high in the last years. Companies that make globally seen, little money (and if they make – it goes to them, not the artists) are able to shape how a whole world is communicating?

Give me a break – all political parties – love the idea of being able to censor what is said and done. Starting from Berlusconi, to Australia, the TSA in the US whenever they make something strange, the Chinese Government to protect people getting to know their crimes, companies using the DMCA to protect customers from knowing dangerous flaws in their products sold etc etc.

Man wake up. Soon you will not be able any more to “do creative work” on your own and publish on the internet. Since nobody will let you unless it comes through a big corporation…but hey – since you can’t publish nobody can steal it!

Way to hell is plastered with good intentions….

]]> By: Brett Glass http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234291 Brett Glass Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:12:53 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234291 Doc, I'd like to manage my network entirely for my customers, but there's a caveat. If one of my customers is committing a crime via my network, should I knowingly aid and abet it just because that person is my customer? If I did so, I'd be guilty of selling out my integrity to make a buck. And I'm not that kind of person. As a creator of intellectual property (including words, music, and images), it distresses me to know that such things are going on via my network. I do not have the ability to establish in every case whether a particular download is legal (though in some cases -- such as a download of a first run movie from Rapidshare -- there's virtually no doubt). But I'd like to see a system -- which includes the due process required by law -- whereby I can clear my conscience by helping to stop such crimes. Doc, I’d like to manage my network entirely for my customers, but there’s a caveat. If one of my customers is committing a crime via my network, should I knowingly aid and abet it just because that person is my customer? If I did so, I’d be guilty of selling out my integrity to make a buck. And I’m not that kind of person.

As a creator of intellectual property (including words, music, and images), it distresses me to know that such things are going on via my network. I do not have the ability to establish in every case whether a particular download is legal (though in some cases — such as a download of a first run movie from Rapidshare — there’s virtually no doubt). But I’d like to see a system — which includes the due process required by law — whereby I can clear my conscience by helping to stop such crimes.

]]> By: Doc Searls http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234281 Doc Searls Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:54:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234281 Brett, she's talking about how China actually operates, and how it serves as a model for other countries -- and the dangers involved in that. In your case I kinda see it like this. You can manage your network in ways that work for your customers, for the "content providers," or for the federal and state regulators. Or for some combination of those three. I'd like to see you manage it for your customers, and not get run over by either of those other two parties. I may be wrong, but I think Rebecca would agree. Brett, she’s talking about how China actually operates, and how it serves as a model for other countries — and the dangers involved in that.

In your case I kinda see it like this. You can manage your network in ways that work for your customers, for the “content providers,” or for the federal and state regulators. Or for some combination of those three.

I’d like to see you manage it for your customers, and not get run over by either of those other two parties.

I may be wrong, but I think Rebecca would agree.

]]> By: Brett Glass http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234273 Brett Glass Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:40:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234273 So, MacKinnon is suggesting that ISPs actively support crimes committed via their networks? Or simply look the other way as their networks are used as burglary tools? So, MacKinnon is suggesting that ISPs actively support crimes committed via their networks? Or simply look the other way as their networks are used as burglary tools?

]]> By: Marc's Voice » Getting into the Cleveland groove now - blogging http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2010/01/18/how-the-internet-becomes-the-content-o-net/comment-page-1/#comment-234250 Marc's Voice » Getting into the Cleveland groove now - blogging Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:42:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/?p=2486#comment-234250 [...] How the Internet becomes the Content-o-net [...] [...] How the Internet becomes the Content-o-net [...]

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