Comments on: The Data Bubble II

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Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:48:49 +0000

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Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:29:33 +0000

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By: Doc Searls

Doc Searls — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 15:04:26 +0000

Thanks, John. I'm honored as well as flattered. I should add that Net Worth has had an influence on me, both when it came out in '99 and since then. For example, its DNA is certainly in the fourth party concept.

By: lokfoo

lokfoo — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:59:52 +0000

“If we want a truly conversational economy, we’re going to need individuals who are independent and self-empowered.”

Great insight. The question seems to come back to education (which rather implies a top down thing) for want of a better word. While we have a will to become empowered, we cannot be independent all the time. Users need facilitation. A lot of it.

By: Jamie Clark

Jamie Clark — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:04:25 +0000

Strongly agree with the “contracts of adhesion” point.
A problem is that traditional legal contracts analysis,
like balance sheets, has long undervalued information
as a tradeable good. We don’t do enough to support
transactions and promises about consumer data because,
in spite of its value, law and regulation haven’t caught
up with reality yet.
The idea that enterprises could “signal willingness to
deal” on customer-centric terms is inspiring. But how?
What kind of “bargaining” is possible within the severe
constraints of UIs?
See you at IIW.

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Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:22:32 +0000

[...] problem to how we relation to people online, and all are converging around Social. Doc Searls also discusses the related issue of identity and profiling used to present customized content and ads. I might add that in addition to giving me some transparency into and control over my identity [...]

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Time to Fly the Tweet Coop? | Sam Harrelson — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:42:17 +0000

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By: KD

KD — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:52:56 +0000

The links numbered 2 and 3 are identical.

By: Will Rowan

Will Rowan — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:57:31 +0000

Cracking post, Doc.

As noted by Jim H, so far we’re only seeing ever-deeper mining of data to deliver content.

It’s not always done that intelligently: why track’n'serve me a buy now ad, when I just bought precisely what you’re advertising?
- the tracking toolset is sophisticated enough to follow what I just did on a site, as serve me appropriate ad content as I navigate elsewhere. I’d share *more* data to a firm that respected my current purpose.
- I’m too busy to manage every commercial relationship: I need these automated systems to help me out
Until VRM-thinking kicks into this equation, and brings customers into the equation, these “relationship marketing” campaigns are the sound of one hand clapping. Relationships take two…

By: Lucretia Pruitt

Lucretia Pruitt — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:48:21 +0000

One of the most powerful phrases in the consumer’s vocabulary is “informed consent” — it’s completely different than the current model we see, isn’t it?
Terribly important distinction between agreeing to something and being subjected to it.
Great article Doc – hope it is widely read.