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	<title>Comments on: A Large Incentive to Proofread Pleadings</title>
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		<title>By: Scipio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-5258</link>
		<dc:creator>Scipio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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All I can say is, Go forth, and do likewise, Judges of Mississippi.</description>
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<p>All I can say is, Go forth, and do likewise, Judges of Mississippi.</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>Scipio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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All I can say is, Go forth, and do likewise, Judges of Mississippi.</description>
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<p>All I can say is, Go forth, and do likewise, Judges of Mississippi.</p>
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		<title>By: David Giacalone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-5257</link>
		<dc:creator>David Giacalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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Carolyn,  I think you&#039;re overstating how much extra work it takes to proofread a documuent -- especially one that has been initially drafted with due care.  I don&#039;t buy the notion that making sure your submissions parse correctly (so the judge or magistrate doesn&#039;t have to guess your meaning) and are sufficiently free of typos to avoid annoying the court, is optional or excessively costly diligence.</description>
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<p>Carolyn,  I think you&#8217;re overstating how much extra work it takes to proofread a documuent &#8212; especially one that has been initially drafted with due care.  I don&#8217;t buy the notion that making sure your submissions parse correctly (so the judge or magistrate doesn&#8217;t have to guess your meaning) and are sufficiently free of typos to avoid annoying the court, is optional or excessively costly diligence.</p>
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		<title>By: David Giacalone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-7177</link>
		<dc:creator>David Giacalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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Carolyn,  I think you&#039;re overstating how much extra work it takes to proofread a documuent -- especially one that has been initially drafted with due care.  I don&#039;t buy the notion that making sure your submissions parse correctly (so the judge or magistrate doesn&#039;t have to guess your meaning) and are sufficiently free of typos to avoid annoying the court, is optional or excessively costly diligence.</description>
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<p>Carolyn,  I think you&#8217;re overstating how much extra work it takes to proofread a documuent &#8212; especially one that has been initially drafted with due care.  I don&#8217;t buy the notion that making sure your submissions parse correctly (so the judge or magistrate doesn&#8217;t have to guess your meaning) and are sufficiently free of typos to avoid annoying the court, is optional or excessively costly diligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-5256</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Elefant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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It is hard to comment on the fairness of the Judge&#039;s rulings without knowing the substance of the pleadings.  If the pleadings were well researched and supported by reasonably uniform citations (in other words, not total bluebook conformance but at least enough information to find the case), the I think the issue of typos and sloppy writing is less relevant.  Perhaps the Judge might be warranted in cutting some hours but that should be the extent of the penalty.
Moreover, in the long run, the overall effect of the Judge&#039;s ruling is essentially to increase rates that will be awarded in these types of actions.  The next time attorneys bring a civil rights action, they will either use a lower level associate to do proofing or spend more time proofing, which will mean the brief will cost more.  Where lawyers&#039; resources on a case are limited, they make a cost-benefit decision - as Puricelli presumably did - to cut hours where the cuts would have the least impact.  Apparently, here, Puricelli realized that a well prepared case before a jury was a better investment of his time than proofing every word of the pleading.  But after this judge&#039;s decision, lawyers won&#039;t be making that kind of decision anymore - and again, it&#039;s going to result in increased rates for both the side that gets stuck with the bill and possibly the client if he or she is fronting the costs.</description>
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<p>It is hard to comment on the fairness of the Judge&#8217;s rulings without knowing the substance of the pleadings.  If the pleadings were well researched and supported by reasonably uniform citations (in other words, not total bluebook conformance but at least enough information to find the case), the I think the issue of typos and sloppy writing is less relevant.  Perhaps the Judge might be warranted in cutting some hours but that should be the extent of the penalty.<br />
Moreover, in the long run, the overall effect of the Judge&#8217;s ruling is essentially to increase rates that will be awarded in these types of actions.  The next time attorneys bring a civil rights action, they will either use a lower level associate to do proofing or spend more time proofing, which will mean the brief will cost more.  Where lawyers&#8217; resources on a case are limited, they make a cost-benefit decision &#8211; as Puricelli presumably did &#8211; to cut hours where the cuts would have the least impact.  Apparently, here, Puricelli realized that a well prepared case before a jury was a better investment of his time than proofing every word of the pleading.  But after this judge&#8217;s decision, lawyers won&#8217;t be making that kind of decision anymore &#8211; and again, it&#8217;s going to result in increased rates for both the side that gets stuck with the bill and possibly the client if he or she is fronting the costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/02/24/a-large-incentive-to-proofread-pleadings/comment-page-1/#comment-7176</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Elefant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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It is hard to comment on the fairness of the Judge&#039;s rulings without knowing the substance of the pleadings.  If the pleadings were well researched and supported by reasonably uniform citations (in other words, not total bluebook conformance but at least enough information to find the case), the I think the issue of typos and sloppy writing is less relevant.  Perhaps the Judge might be warranted in cutting some hours but that should be the extent of the penalty.
Moreover, in the long run, the overall effect of the Judge&#039;s ruling is essentially to increase rates that will be awarded in these types of actions.  The next time attorneys bring a civil rights action, they will either use a lower level associate to do proofing or spend more time proofing, which will mean the brief will cost more.  Where lawyers&#039; resources on a case are limited, they make a cost-benefit decision - as Puricelli presumably did - to cut hours where the cuts would have the least impact.  Apparently, here, Puricelli realized that a well prepared case before a jury was a better investment of his time than proofing every word of the pleading.  But after this judge&#039;s decision, lawyers won&#039;t be making that kind of decision anymore - and again, it&#039;s going to result in increased rates for both the side that gets stuck with the bill and possibly the client if he or she is fronting the costs.</description>
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<p>It is hard to comment on the fairness of the Judge&#8217;s rulings without knowing the substance of the pleadings.  If the pleadings were well researched and supported by reasonably uniform citations (in other words, not total bluebook conformance but at least enough information to find the case), the I think the issue of typos and sloppy writing is less relevant.  Perhaps the Judge might be warranted in cutting some hours but that should be the extent of the penalty.<br />
Moreover, in the long run, the overall effect of the Judge&#8217;s ruling is essentially to increase rates that will be awarded in these types of actions.  The next time attorneys bring a civil rights action, they will either use a lower level associate to do proofing or spend more time proofing, which will mean the brief will cost more.  Where lawyers&#8217; resources on a case are limited, they make a cost-benefit decision &#8211; as Puricelli presumably did &#8211; to cut hours where the cuts would have the least impact.  Apparently, here, Puricelli realized that a well prepared case before a jury was a better investment of his time than proofing every word of the pleading.  But after this judge&#8217;s decision, lawyers won&#8217;t be making that kind of decision anymore &#8211; and again, it&#8217;s going to result in increased rates for both the side that gets stuck with the bill and possibly the client if he or she is fronting the costs.</p>
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