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May 19, 2004

This Barrister Can’t Barter

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 2:58 pm

A Texas appellate court won’t let divorce lawyer Mary McKnight appear at trial for Bill Sanders, because the client “did carpentry work on McKnight’s Dallas law office to help defray the fees he incurred in his divorce proceedings.”  According to the 5th Court of Appeals in Dallas, the arrangement turned the lawyer into her client’s employer, and thus a witness on issues relating to “Bill’s abilities to care for the minor child or pay child support.” (Texas Lawyer/NYLawyer, Lawyer Ousted From Case for Not Taking Cash, May 19, 2004)


The memorandum opinion in In re Joyce Elizabeth Sanders turned to Texas disciplinary Rule 3.08 for guidance in determining disqualification of counsel, since McKnight was being called as a witness by opposing counsel.  The court reasoned:



oil can “After reviewing the record, we conclude the trial court abused its discretion in denying the motion to disqualify McKnight from acting as trial counsel for Bill. McKnight’s testimony as an employer relating to Bill’s abilities to care for the minor child or pay child support, and her possibly adverse testimony about when the employment began leads us to conclude a fact finder may be confused or mislead by McKnight’s dual roles.”


The writ would allow McKnight to continue to act as counsel for Bill on pretrial matters and, if the requirements of 3.08(c) are met, other attorneys with McKnight’s firm may act as advocate for Bill in any adjudicatory proceeding in this case.  In a strong Dissenting Opinion, Justice Whittington argued: 



The “employment” referred to by the majority is the performance of handyman jobs that Bill Sanders did for Mary McKnight after hours to help defray the cost of attorney’s fees. The record before us supports the trial judge’s determination that any confusion caused by McKnight’s testimony regarding Bill’s completion of the jobs for her would be de minimis.


        Additionally, disciplinary rule of professional conduct 3.08 should not be used as a tactical weapon to deprive the opposing party of the right to be represented by the lawyer of his or her choice because reducing the rule to such a use would subvert its purpose. . . . That is precisely what happened in this case.


hammer The Texas Lawyer article points out that the decision “troubles some family law attorneys who say the opinion could kill a long tradition of bartering between lawyers and low-income clients.”  Lawyer McKnight says it will “have a detrimental effect on solos and small-firm lawyers who sometimes accept services in exchange for representing clients who have no other way to pay them.”  



  • According to the article, Bill Sanders had been billed more than $100,000 in legal fees in this bitter divorce, and had performed about $25,000 in handyman and carpentry services.
Got any opinions or stories on bartering lawyers?  Carolyn?

This Barrister Can’t Barter

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 2:58 pm

A Texas appellate court won’t let divorce lawyer Mary McKnight appear at trial for Bill Sanders, because the client “did carpentry work on McKnight’s Dallas law office to help defray the fees he incurred in his divorce proceedings.”  According to the 5th Court of Appeals in Dallas, the arrangement turned the lawyer into her client’s employer, and thus a witness on issues relating to “Bill’s abilities to care for the minor child or pay child support.” (Texas Lawyer/NYLawyer, Lawyer Ousted From Case for Not Taking Cash, May 19, 2004)


The memorandum opinion in In re Joyce Elizabeth Sanders turned to Texas disciplinary Rule 3.08 for guidance in determining disqualification of counsel, since McKnight was being called as a witness by opposing counsel.  The court reasoned:



oil can “After reviewing the record, we conclude the trial court abused its discretion in denying the motion to disqualify McKnight from acting as trial counsel for Bill. McKnight’s testimony as an employer relating to Bill’s abilities to care for the minor child or pay child support, and her possibly adverse testimony about when the employment began leads us to conclude a fact finder may be confused or mislead by McKnight’s dual roles.”


The writ would allow McKnight to continue to act as counsel for Bill on pretrial matters and, if the requirements of 3.08(c) are met, other attorneys with McKnight’s firm may act as advocate for Bill in any adjudicatory proceeding in this case.  In a strong Dissenting Opinion, Justice Whittington argued: 



The “employment” referred to by the majority is the performance of handyman jobs that Bill Sanders did for Mary McKnight after hours to help defray the cost of attorney’s fees. The record before us supports the trial judge’s determination that any confusion caused by McKnight’s testimony regarding Bill’s completion of the jobs for her would be de minimis.


        Additionally, disciplinary rule of professional conduct 3.08 should not be used as a tactical weapon to deprive the opposing party of the right to be represented by the lawyer of his or her choice because reducing the rule to such a use would subvert its purpose. . . . That is precisely what happened in this case.


hammer The Texas Lawyer article points out that the decision “troubles some family law attorneys who say the opinion could kill a long tradition of bartering between lawyers and low-income clients.”  Lawyer McKnight says it will “have a detrimental effect on solos and small-firm lawyers who sometimes accept services in exchange for representing clients who have no other way to pay them.”  



  • According to the article, Bill Sanders had been billed more than $100,000 in legal fees in this bitter divorce, and had performed about $25,000 in handyman and carpentry services.
Got any opinions or stories on bartering lawyers?  Carolyn?

More Good Ideas from Australia About Lawyers

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 10:36 am

As we noted on May 1st, the legal profession in America spends Law Day congratulating itself.  In Australia, lawyers spend Law Week seriously working to make the profession and the entire justice system operate “efficiently and in the public interest.”


In opening Law Week activities for New South Wales on Monday, Australian Law Reform Commission (ALRC) President Prof. David Weisbrot emphasized that “the key to ensuring a healthy legal culture . . . begins with improved legal education, emphasising ‘soft skills’ such as communications, negotiation and dispute resolution.”  According to an ALRC Press Release, Weisbrot said:


[A]n Australian Academy of Law should be established “as a high priority, to bring together the various strands of an increasingly fragmented profession—judges, barristers, large firm solicitors, small firm solicitors, professional associations, students and academics—to focus attention on issues of professional identity, ethics and public service.”

mouse lawyer horiz  An article from Australian News (Laws Schools Out of Touch, 19 May 04, via law.com NewsWire In Brief) notes Weisbrot’s belief that “the level of repetitive detail” was turning eager young students into time-servers late in their degrees, and explains (emphasis added):


Professor Weisbrot . . . said a recent study by the commission, Managing Justice, found that while the profession had changed dramatically, the teaching of it was still too much “chalk and talk“.

Universities needed to focus more on “professional ethics, dispute resolution, negotiations, client interviewing, working with teams [and] having a greater identification with client interests”, Professor Weisbrot told the HES.


check red “If what you’re doing is teaching law students to remember rules from cases, you’re not giving them much of an intellectual skill.  You’d be better off teaching them the people stuff and then teaching them how to do all the legal research they need to do to find the law in every particular context.

Professor Weisbrot said he hoped an academy, to be modeled on national academies of science and social science, would be up and running in about three months.  ethicalEsq envied the Australian ability to achieve legal reforms quickly in a posting last August.

More Good Ideas from Australia About Lawyers

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 10:36 am

As we noted on May 1st, the legal profession in America spends Law Day congratulating itself.  In Australia, lawyers spend Law Week seriously working to make the profession and the entire justice system operate “efficiently and in the public interest.”


In opening Law Week activities for New South Wales on Monday, Australian Law Reform Commission (ALRC) President Prof. David Weisbrot emphasized that “the key to ensuring a healthy legal culture . . . begins with improved legal education, emphasising ‘soft skills’ such as communications, negotiation and dispute resolution.”  According to an ALRC Press Release, Weisbrot said:


[A]n Australian Academy of Law should be established “as a high priority, to bring together the various strands of an increasingly fragmented profession—judges, barristers, large firm solicitors, small firm solicitors, professional associations, students and academics—to focus attention on issues of professional identity, ethics and public service.”

mouse lawyer horiz  An article from Australian News (Laws Schools Out of Touch, 19 May 04, via law.com NewsWire In Brief) notes Weisbrot’s belief that “the level of repetitive detail” was turning eager young students into time-servers late in their degrees, and explains (emphasis added):


Professor Weisbrot . . . said a recent study by the commission, Managing Justice, found that while the profession had changed dramatically, the teaching of it was still too much “chalk and talk“.

Universities needed to focus more on “professional ethics, dispute resolution, negotiations, client interviewing, working with teams [and] having a greater identification with client interests”, Professor Weisbrot told the HES.


check red “If what you’re doing is teaching law students to remember rules from cases, you’re not giving them much of an intellectual skill.  You’d be better off teaching them the people stuff and then teaching them how to do all the legal research they need to do to find the law in every particular context.

Professor Weisbrot said he hoped an academy, to be modeled on national academies of science and social science, would be up and running in about three months.  ethicalEsq envied the Australian ability to achieve legal reforms quickly in a posting last August.

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