Comments on: seat-belt solace http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/ breathless punditry and one-breath poetry with David Giacalone Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:58:52 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Christian http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-24134 Christian Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:29:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-24134 I just don't get the rant about seat belts from Martin above. (pearfrazin) (((Everyone deserves a ticket that doesn't wear a seat belt because your insurance is higher??? ))))WTFriggin heck is that. IF THAT IS THE CASE Accoarding to the CDC: Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) continue to be a major health threat in the United States. CDC estimates that 19 million STD infections occur annually, almost half of them among youth ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to potentially severe health consequences, STDs pose a tremendous economic burden, with direct medical costs as high as $15.5 billion in a single year http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats03/trends2003.htm (don't think nonseatbelt deaths can compete) SHOULD THE GOVERMENT FINE YOU FOR HAVING A STD WHEN IT IS DISCOVERED??? ... EXCUSE ME SIR HERE YOUR TICKET FOR BEING TOO STUPID TO WEAR A CONDOM!!!! Hey the HWY patrols could come by the hospitals...they are already wasting time with those evil seatbelt violators!!! SEX POLICE ANYONE. got to love the new socialist states of AMERICA Seat belt laws should be a choice if you are an adult. IF YOU DON'T like that comment then how could you say. A WOMEN has a right to choose what to do with her body!!! I choose to be without a seat belt in an accident!!!!! BUT HOW DARE I expect that to be a right. (why... its not popular) I just don’t get the rant about seat belts from Martin above.
(pearfrazin) (((Everyone deserves a ticket that doesn’t wear a seat belt because your insurance is higher??? ))))WTFriggin heck is that.
IF THAT IS THE CASE
Accoarding to the CDC: Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) continue to be a major health threat in the United States. CDC estimates that 19 million STD infections occur annually, almost half of them among youth ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to potentially severe health consequences, STDs pose a tremendous economic burden, with direct medical costs as high as $15.5 billion in a single year http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats03/trends2003.htm

(don’t think nonseatbelt deaths can compete)

SHOULD THE GOVERMENT FINE YOU FOR HAVING A STD WHEN IT IS DISCOVERED??? … EXCUSE ME SIR HERE YOUR TICKET FOR BEING TOO STUPID TO WEAR A CONDOM!!!! Hey the HWY patrols could come by the hospitals…they are already wasting time with those evil seatbelt violators!!!
SEX POLICE ANYONE.
got to love the new socialist states of AMERICA

Seat belt laws should be a choice if you are an adult. IF YOU DON’T like that comment then how could you say. A WOMEN has a right to choose what to do with her body!!! I choose to be without a seat belt in an accident!!!!! BUT HOW DARE I expect that to be a right. (why… its not popular)

]]> By: Benny http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-4377 Benny Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:00:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-4377 <a></a> Good blog with interesing information!

Good blog with interesing information!

]]> By: Benny http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-6297 Benny Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:00:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-6297 <a></a> Good blog with interesing information!

Good blog with interesing information!

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-5554 David Giacalone Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:27:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-5554 <a></a> Ain't the weblog community great?  Obliging experts are (usually) just a few hours away. Thank you, Martin, for a quick explanation that even I can understand.   I assume that the laws mandating seatbelt use are useful for their deterrent effect far more than for the dollars collected in fines -- especially since the requirement gives nudges and nanny-types a little leverage with the recalcitrant. thanks again.  your fee is in the mail

Ain’t the weblog community great?  Obliging experts are (usually) just a few hours away.
Thank you, Martin, for a quick explanation that even I can understand.   I assume that the laws mandating seatbelt use are useful for their deterrent effect far more than for the dollars collected in fines — especially since the requirement gives nudges and nanny-types a little leverage with the recalcitrant.
thanks again.  your fee is in the mail

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-7474 David Giacalone Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:27:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-7474 <a></a> Ain't the weblog community great?  Obliging experts are (usually) just a few hours away. Thank you, Martin, for a quick explanation that even I can understand.   I assume that the laws mandating seatbelt use are useful for their deterrent effect far more than for the dollars collected in fines -- especially since the requirement gives nudges and nanny-types a little leverage with the recalcitrant. thanks again.  your fee is in the mail

Ain’t the weblog community great?  Obliging experts are (usually) just a few hours away.
Thank you, Martin, for a quick explanation that even I can understand.   I assume that the laws mandating seatbelt use are useful for their deterrent effect far more than for the dollars collected in fines — especially since the requirement gives nudges and nanny-types a little leverage with the recalcitrant.
thanks again.  your fee is in the mail

]]> By: Martin http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-5553 Martin Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:56:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-5553 <a></a> In re: Seat belts. If a person is an above average risk and the insurance (private or public) company can not discern that he is an above average risk (because he drives without a seatbelt), then a law which fines the offending behavior is efficient and should be consistent with libertarian thinking. In this case the driver's behavior actually injures the property rights of another through higher insurance premiums and/or taxes. The seatbelt law is an attempt to internalize the cost of this risky behavior. If however, insurers can tell that a person routinely drives without a seatbelt and charges an appropriate risk premium for that behavior, then the need for the law is eliminated. In this case the insurer charges the risk premium directly which will internalize the cost of risk to the driver. In real life we can not monitor drivers costlessly and it is likely cheaper to use the states' enforcement power to monitor drivers' behavior.

In re: Seat belts. If a person is an above average risk and the insurance (private or public) company can not discern that he is an above average risk (because he drives without a seatbelt), then a law which fines the offending behavior is efficient and should be consistent with libertarian thinking. In this case the driver’s behavior actually injures the property rights of another through higher insurance premiums and/or taxes. The seatbelt law is an attempt to internalize the cost of this risky behavior. If however, insurers can tell that a person routinely drives without a seatbelt and charges an appropriate risk premium for that behavior, then the need for the law is eliminated. In this case the insurer charges the risk premium directly which will internalize the cost of risk to the driver.

In real life we can not monitor drivers costlessly and it is likely cheaper to use the states’ enforcement power to monitor drivers’ behavior.

]]> By: Martin http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/comment-page-1/#comment-7473 Martin Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:56:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/formerlyknownas/2004/10/17/seat-belt-solace/#comment-7473 <a></a> In re: Seat belts. If a person is an above average risk and the insurance (private or public) company can not discern that he is an above average risk (because he drives without a seatbelt), then a law which fines the offending behavior is efficient and should be consistent with libertarian thinking. In this case the driver's behavior actually injures the property rights of another through higher insurance premiums and/or taxes. The seatbelt law is an attempt to internalize the cost of this risky behavior. If however, insurers can tell that a person routinely drives without a seatbelt and charges an appropriate risk premium for that behavior, then the need for the law is eliminated. In this case the insurer charges the risk premium directly which will internalize the cost of risk to the driver. In real life we can not monitor drivers costlessly and it is likely cheaper to use the states' enforcement power to monitor drivers' behavior.

In re: Seat belts. If a person is an above average risk and the insurance (private or public) company can not discern that he is an above average risk (because he drives without a seatbelt), then a law which fines the offending behavior is efficient and should be consistent with libertarian thinking. In this case the driver’s behavior actually injures the property rights of another through higher insurance premiums and/or taxes. The seatbelt law is an attempt to internalize the cost of this risky behavior. If however, insurers can tell that a person routinely drives without a seatbelt and charges an appropriate risk premium for that behavior, then the need for the law is eliminated. In this case the insurer charges the risk premium directly which will internalize the cost of risk to the driver.

In real life we can not monitor drivers costlessly and it is likely cheaper to use the states’ enforcement power to monitor drivers’ behavior.

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