Comments on: learning from Abe’s thick skin http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/ "breathless punditry" and "one-breath poetry" with David Giacalone Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:30:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.1 By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16750 David Giacalone Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:41:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16750 dear 127001, As someone who has been poking away at the legal profession for decades, trying to improve the plight of its consumers and to increase access to justice, I agree that a good poke can be very helpful. Some people, however, create strawmen rather than offer good faith dissent to opinions with which they agree. I've learned that such people don't deserve to be given a forum for their distortions and do not merit the time it takes to rebut their assertions. dear 127001, As someone who has been poking away at the legal profession for decades, trying to improve the plight of its consumers and to increase access to justice, I agree that a good poke can be very helpful. Some people, however, create strawmen rather than offer good faith dissent to opinions with which they agree. I’ve learned that such people don’t deserve to be given a forum for their distortions and do not merit the time it takes to rebut their assertions.

]]> By: 127001 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16748 127001 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:42:16 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16748 Well, David, as someone who pokes at your regularly at schlep (ouch, current one just went up, feel free to poke back), I have to say that sometimes when people can't be led, they have to be "poked." Healthy debate is far more preferable, but we seem to have left "debate" behind and consider every discussion (or opinion) an attack. Lincoln was great at debate. Wish I had his sense of humor. Lacking that, the blogosphere is a unique place to hone it while trying to open issues for ideas or discussion, which is the real work. Until then, I poke away. (smiling) ... It's often considered a compliment. I am confused however, at your quote of dragosan. I wouldn't enter a debate with anyone with a knife. I only use chopsticks. (see Confucious) Well, David, as someone who pokes at your regularly at schlep (ouch, current one just went up, feel free to poke back), I have to say that sometimes when people can’t be led, they have to be “poked.”

Healthy debate is far more preferable, but we seem to have left “debate” behind and consider every discussion (or opinion) an attack.

Lincoln was great at debate. Wish I had his sense of humor. Lacking that, the blogosphere is a unique place to hone it while trying to open issues for ideas or discussion, which is the real work.

Until then, I poke away. (smiling) … It’s often considered a compliment.

I am confused however, at your quote of dragosan. I wouldn’t enter a debate with anyone with a knife. I only use chopsticks. (see Confucious)

]]> By: shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » sutton’s “no-asshole-rule” works pro se, too http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16741 shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » sutton’s “no-asshole-rule” works pro se, too Sun, 18 Feb 2007 04:17:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-16741 [...] p.s.  Admittedly, it can at times be difficult not to respond in kind to the jerky behavior of your opponent.  This President’s Weekend, you might try “learning from Abe Lincoln’s thick skin.” [...] […] p.s.  Admittedly, it can at times be difficult not to respond in kind to the jerky behavior of your opponent.  This President’s Weekend, you might try “learning from Abe Lincoln’s thick skin.” […]

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-3867 David Giacalone Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:13:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-3867 <a></a> Hello, Karen.  Thank you for stopping by and leaving such kinds words.  I hope my readers will check out your contemplations of poet Stevens (and much more) at <A href="http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/dao_wallace_stevens/">Dao of Wallace Stevens</A>.  I'll be back there, and will also seek out more of your ruminations on peonies <A href="http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/spiritual_genealogy/">here</A>. You can find a few dozen <A href="http://cat.xula.edu/issa/searchissa.php?sorter=date&s_string=peon&season=&s_date=">Issa haiku featuring peonies</A> at David Lanoue's wonderful site.  Here's a pair that caught my eye this morning: by itselfmy head bows...peony!       sitting on her eggsthe chicken admiresthe peony

Hello, Karen.  Thank you for stopping by and leaving such kinds words.  I hope my readers will check out your contemplations of poet Stevens (and much more) at Dao of Wallace Stevens.  I’ll be back there, and will also seek out more of your ruminations on peonies here.
You can find a few dozen Issa haiku featuring peonies at David Lanoue’s wonderful site.  Here’s a pair that caught my eye this morning:
by itselfmy head bows…peony!
 
 
 
sitting on her eggsthe chicken admiresthe peony

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-5787 David Giacalone Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:13:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-5787 <a></a> Hello, Karen.  Thank you for stopping by and leaving such kinds words.  I hope my readers will check out your contemplations of poet Stevens (and much more) at <A href="http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/dao_wallace_stevens/">Dao of Wallace Stevens</A>.  I'll be back there, and will also seek out more of your ruminations on peonies <A href="http://knitandcontemplation.typepad.com/spiritual_genealogy/">here</A>. You can find a few dozen <A href="http://cat.xula.edu/issa/searchissa.php?sorter=date&s_string=peon&season=&s_date=">Issa haiku featuring peonies</A> at David Lanoue's wonderful site.  Here's a pair that caught my eye this morning: by itselfmy head bows...peony!       sitting on her eggsthe chicken admiresthe peony

Hello, Karen.  Thank you for stopping by and leaving such kinds words.  I hope my readers will check out your contemplations of poet Stevens (and much more) at Dao of Wallace Stevens.  I’ll be back there, and will also seek out more of your ruminations on peonies here.
You can find a few dozen Issa haiku featuring peonies at David Lanoue’s wonderful site.  Here’s a pair that caught my eye this morning:
by itselfmy head bows…peony!
 
 
 
sitting on her eggsthe chicken admiresthe peony

]]> By: Karen M. http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-3864 Karen M. Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:06:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-3864 <a></a> Hi David, I love your website, it's attractive with all the white space and the icons, interesting content, and I especially enjoy the haiku. Dagosan, cute. :) Thanks for leaving a comment on my blog, Dao of Wallace Stevens. I have more excerpts from the RH Blyth book on peonies on my 'spiritual genealogy' site if you'd like to read more. Thanks again!

Hi David, I love your website, it’s attractive with all the white space and the icons, interesting content, and I especially enjoy the haiku. Dagosan, cute. :) Thanks for leaving a comment on my blog, Dao of Wallace Stevens. I have more excerpts from the RH Blyth book on peonies on my ’spiritual genealogy’ site if you’d like to read more. Thanks again!

]]> By: Karen M. http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-5784 Karen M. Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:06:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2005/02/20/learning-from-abes-thick-skin/#comment-5784 <a></a> Hi David, I love your website, it's attractive with all the white space and the icons, interesting content, and I especially enjoy the haiku. Dagosan, cute. :) Thanks for leaving a comment on my blog, Dao of Wallace Stevens. I have more excerpts from the RH Blyth book on peonies on my 'spiritual genealogy' site if you'd like to read more. Thanks again!

Hi David, I love your website, it’s attractive with all the white space and the icons, interesting content, and I especially enjoy the haiku. Dagosan, cute. :) Thanks for leaving a comment on my blog, Dao of Wallace Stevens. I have more excerpts from the RH Blyth book on peonies on my ’spiritual genealogy’ site if you’d like to read more. Thanks again!

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