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May 9, 2005

born there — MCBA ad guidelines

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 9:28 pm

 


                                                                     orig. post: born there, darn that (May 9, 2005)





I just visited Mama G. for two days, in the city of my birth, for Mother’s Day.   

To my amazement, I spent an entire weekend without thinking or talking 

about anti-consumer bar association chicanery — until I noticed a tiny blurb in

the Rochester, NY, paper this morning.  It said the Monroe County Bar Ass’n

was releasing new “advertising guidelines” today that would help maintain the

image of the profession, and would also start a campaign to educate the public

on how to choose a lawyer.  My trustbuster genes were immediately activitated,

but I had to ignore than until returning home this afternoon.  I have now located


(May 9, 2005).  (see the NYS Code of Lawyer Ethics, DR 2-101)

 








mother dog
testing the depth…
snow-melt river
      




     ISSA,

    translated by D. G. Lanoue

 

My rusty-but-trusty antitrust opinion:  MCBA, which is a voluntary bar group,  

whose conduct is considered to be “joint” or “concerted” activity under antitrust

law, is running the risk of violating those laws with subjective and overly-restrictive

guidelines, especially by linking them to a compliance-and-monitoring system. The

Guideline Committee will accept requests for advisory opinions and complaints about

violations (which will surely come from competitors, from the bar’s Dignity Police,

and maybe even from “tort reformers”); the committee will also “suggest” modifications

to the ads and recommend that the Association’s Board make public the refusal by a

lawyer to modify ads deemed inappropriate.

 

According to the Press Release:


“The MCBA had adopted these guidelines to promote knowledge and
respect for the New York Lawyers Code of Professional Responsibility,
and to encourage responsible and informative advertising by attorneys. 
In essence, the MCBA guidelines state that lawyer advertising should be
true, accurate, clear, fair, relevant, rational and jurisdictionally proper.”


Just who is supposed to get to know and respect the Code?  The public?  And,
which lawyers are unaware of the need for ads that are “true, accurate and clear”?
I fear that the more subjective aspects of the guidelines — those describing “fair,”
“relevant” and “rational” advertising are the real reasons for creating the new ad
policing system.  Thus, to be “relevant”, all information in a lawyer’s ad should be
“relevant to the thoughtful selection of counsel, and devices, such as puffery,
that are likely to hinder this process should be minimized.”


Similarly, we can all agree that an ad should be “fair.”  But, what are we to make of
the “fairness” guideline, which is solely aimed at dramatizations and simulations, and
advises that they should “fairly represent underlying facts and properly disclose that
they have been staged”?   What kind of oversight mischief does MCBA intend?
 


chasing the crow
ten or twelve yards…
mother sparrow

        ISSA, translated by D. G. Lanoue    

 


 Most worrisome: the “rationality” requirement  is aimed at “Picture and stylistic

elements”, which should not “frighten, inflame, or otherwise manipulate viewers into ignoring 
rational considerations.”  Furthermore, the ads should “not be likely to shock or offend a
substantial segment of the community or to foster disrespect for the law, the legal
profession, or the judicial system.”  There is simply too much leeway here for meddle-
some interference and deterrence, with little more at stake than the profession’s Image
(which we believe is actually disserved by such dignity campaigns).


Thanks to constitional and antitrust attacks, specific advertising restrictions against
“demeaning” the profession or impugning its “dignity” were repealed in the last few
decades.  Now, we have seem to have them coming back — without any showing
of harm to the public from the “offending” ads.


Naturally, I wish bar associations and rule-making bodies would worry far less about
personal injury lawyers who demean the profession with silly ads, and far more about
personal injury lawyers who despoil their clients with standard contingency fees.   Clients
don’t need more information to be able to sort through puffery and silly tv ads.  They do
need more information to know how to negotiate for fair fees.  Actions tell us much about
priorities.  (see this
post and links)


  • update (June 3, 2005): the new president of the New York State Bar Association, Rochester attorney A. Vincent Buzard, says he hopes to limit lawyer advertising “to the fullest extent permitted, within the limitations of the First Amendment.”  (NYSBA, press release, June 1, 2005;  Democrat & Chronicle,Bar leader is advocate for lawyers,” May 30, 2005)  Buzard told the D&C that he supports a program like the Monroe Country Bar Association’s ad guidelines.
  • update (Nov. 18, 2005): See the 130-page NYSBA Advertising Task Force Report (released Nov. 5, 2005), which recommends adoption of the MCBA Guidelines, along with many other measures aimed at limiting lawyer advertising and helping clients choose lawyers in a more appropriate manner.

born there — MCBA ad guidelines

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 9:28 pm

 


                                                                     orig. post: born there, darn that (May 9, 2005)





I just visited Mama G. for two days, in the city of my birth, for Mother’s Day.   

To my amazement, I spent an entire weekend without thinking or talking 

about anti-consumer bar association chicanery — until I noticed a tiny blurb in

the Rochester, NY, paper this morning.  It said the Monroe County Bar Ass’n

was releasing new “advertising guidelines” today that would help maintain the

image of the profession, and would also start a campaign to educate the public

on how to choose a lawyer.  My trustbuster genes were immediately activitated,

but I had to ignore than until returning home this afternoon.  I have now located


(May 9, 2005).  (see the NYS Code of Lawyer Ethics, DR 2-101)

 








mother dog
testing the depth…
snow-melt river
      




     ISSA,

    translated by D. G. Lanoue

 

My rusty-but-trusty antitrust opinion:  MCBA, which is a voluntary bar group,  

whose conduct is considered to be “joint” or “concerted” activity under antitrust

law, is running the risk of violating those laws with subjective and overly-restrictive

guidelines, especially by linking them to a compliance-and-monitoring system. The

Guideline Committee will accept requests for advisory opinions and complaints about

violations (which will surely come from competitors, from the bar’s Dignity Police,

and maybe even from “tort reformers”); the committee will also “suggest” modifications

to the ads and recommend that the Association’s Board make public the refusal by a

lawyer to modify ads deemed inappropriate.

 

According to the Press Release:


“The MCBA had adopted these guidelines to promote knowledge and
respect for the New York Lawyers Code of Professional Responsibility,
and to encourage responsible and informative advertising by attorneys. 
In essence, the MCBA guidelines state that lawyer advertising should be
true, accurate, clear, fair, relevant, rational and jurisdictionally proper.”


Just who is supposed to get to know and respect the Code?  The public?  And,
which lawyers are unaware of the need for ads that are “true, accurate and clear”?
I fear that the more subjective aspects of the guidelines — those describing “fair,”
“relevant” and “rational” advertising are the real reasons for creating the new ad
policing system.  Thus, to be “relevant”, all information in a lawyer’s ad should be
“relevant to the thoughtful selection of counsel, and devices, such as puffery,
that are likely to hinder this process should be minimized.”


Similarly, we can all agree that an ad should be “fair.”  But, what are we to make of
the “fairness” guideline, which is solely aimed at dramatizations and simulations, and
advises that they should “fairly represent underlying facts and properly disclose that
they have been staged”?   What kind of oversight mischief does MCBA intend?
 


chasing the crow
ten or twelve yards…
mother sparrow

        ISSA, translated by D. G. Lanoue    

 


 Most worrisome: the “rationality” requirement  is aimed at “Picture and stylistic

elements”, which should not “frighten, inflame, or otherwise manipulate viewers into ignoring 
rational considerations.”  Furthermore, the ads should “not be likely to shock or offend a
substantial segment of the community or to foster disrespect for the law, the legal
profession, or the judicial system.”  There is simply too much leeway here for meddle-
some interference and deterrence, with little more at stake than the profession’s Image
(which we believe is actually disserved by such dignity campaigns).


Thanks to constitional and antitrust attacks, specific advertising restrictions against
“demeaning” the profession or impugning its “dignity” were repealed in the last few
decades.  Now, we have seem to have them coming back — without any showing
of harm to the public from the “offending” ads.


Naturally, I wish bar associations and rule-making bodies would worry far less about
personal injury lawyers who demean the profession with silly ads, and far more about
personal injury lawyers who despoil their clients with standard contingency fees.   Clients
don’t need more information to be able to sort through puffery and silly tv ads.  They do
need more information to know how to negotiate for fair fees.  Actions tell us much about
priorities.  (see this
post and links)


  • update (June 3, 2005): the new president of the New York State Bar Association, Rochester attorney A. Vincent Buzard, says he hopes to limit lawyer advertising “to the fullest extent permitted, within the limitations of the First Amendment.”  (NYSBA, press release, June 1, 2005;  Democrat & Chronicle,Bar leader is advocate for lawyers,” May 30, 2005)  Buzard told the D&C that he supports a program like the Monroe Country Bar Association’s ad guidelines.
  • update (Nov. 18, 2005): See the 130-page NYSBA Advertising Task Force Report (released Nov. 5, 2005), which recommends adoption of the MCBA Guidelines, along with many other measures aimed at limiting lawyer advertising and helping clients choose lawyers in a more appropriate manner.

born there, darn that

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 8:13 pm


I hope your Mother’s Day was as sunny, warm and fuzzy as mine, which

included a rare joint appearance in the city of my birth, by all three of

Mama G’s offspring, and half of her grandchildren.  

 








mother dog
testing the depth…
snow-melt river
      




     ISSA,

    translated by D. G. Lanoue

 

napper gray sm To my amazement, I spent an entire weekend without thinking or talking 

about anti-consumer bar association chicanery — until I noticed a tiny blurb in

the Rochester, NY, paper this morning.  It said the Monroe County Bar Ass’n

was releasing new “advertising guidelines” today that would help maintain the

image of the profession, and would also start a campaign to educate the public

on how to choose a lawyer.   My trustbuster genes were immediately activated,

but I had to ignore than until returning home this afternoon.  I have now located


(May 9, 2005).  (see the NYS Code of Lawyer Ethics, DR 2-101).

 

My rusty-but-trusty antitrust opinion:  MCBA, which is a voluntary bar group,  

whose conduct is considered to be “joint” or “concerted” activity under antitrust

law, is running the risk of violating those laws with subjective and overly-restrictive

guidelines, especially by linking them to a compliance-and-monitoring system. . . .

 

– read the rest of the lawyer ad story here


 


at bat neg   As usual, my trip to Rochester has inspired me to find a few good haiku

by Tom Painting (an amazingly easy task)) So, here we go:


 


drama class

the novice

botches a death scene

 

 







the gardener’s sleeves

rolled to the elbow

spring equinox

 


 

 

dry heat

a hawk corkscrews

the sky

 


credits: “gardener’s sleeves”: frogpond  XXIV:2;

“dry heat” from  from Walking the Same Path; Heron’s Nest VI:4

“drama class” - frogpond XVII:3 (2004)






 

from  dagosan





Saturday sunset

four geese fly by

double-dating              

               [May 9, 2005]

 

 potluck


tiny check  Brad Wendel at Legal Ethics Forum asked today whether there are any  donkey

good hooks for seeking bar discipline when a lawyer acts like a jerk in public, outside

of the practice of law.  The story started at Eric Muller’s website Is that Legal? 

and revolves around a silly, insulting comment sent by lawyer David L. Gearhart,

J.D., CPA, MBA, who is a member of the Illinois and Indiana bars, and a 2001

graduate of John Marshall Law School.  [Brian Leiter first suggested referring

Gearhart to the Illinois Grievance Committe.] As I commented at LSF, this seems to

be an instance where e-shaming — letting the world discover David Gearhart’s

conduct through Google, Yahoo! et al – is both sufficient and appropriate.



  • One thing I will say for Gearhart:  he at least was willing to put his

    name to his email statement – that’s a couple steps up the maturity and

    evolutionary ladder from the lawyer (and law student) worms who

    slur and insult others anonymously.

born there, darn that

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 8:13 pm


I hope your Mother’s Day was as sunny, warm and fuzzy as mine, which

included a rare joint appearance in the city of my birth, by all three of

Mama G’s offspring, and half of her grandchildren.  

 








mother dog
testing the depth…
snow-melt river
      




     ISSA,

    translated by D. G. Lanoue

 

napper gray sm To my amazement, I spent an entire weekend without thinking or talking 

about anti-consumer bar association chicanery — until I noticed a tiny blurb in

the Rochester, NY, paper this morning.  It said the Monroe County Bar Ass’n

was releasing new “advertising guidelines” today that would help maintain the

image of the profession, and would also start a campaign to educate the public

on how to choose a lawyer.   My trustbuster genes were immediately activated,

but I had to ignore than until returning home this afternoon.  I have now located


(May 9, 2005).  (see the NYS Code of Lawyer Ethics, DR 2-101).

 

My rusty-but-trusty antitrust opinion:  MCBA, which is a voluntary bar group,  

whose conduct is considered to be “joint” or “concerted” activity under antitrust

law, is running the risk of violating those laws with subjective and overly-restrictive

guidelines, especially by linking them to a compliance-and-monitoring system. . . .

 

– read the rest of the lawyer ad story here


 


at bat neg   As usual, my trip to Rochester has inspired me to find a few good haiku

by Tom Painting (an amazingly easy task)) So, here we go:


 


drama class

the novice

botches a death scene

 

 







the gardener’s sleeves

rolled to the elbow

spring equinox

 


 

 

dry heat

a hawk corkscrews

the sky

 


credits: “gardener’s sleeves”: frogpond  XXIV:2;

“dry heat” from  from Walking the Same Path; Heron’s Nest VI:4

“drama class” - frogpond XVII:3 (2004)






 

from  dagosan





Saturday sunset

four geese fly by

double-dating              

               [May 9, 2005]

 

 potluck


tiny check  Brad Wendel at Legal Ethics Forum asked today whether there are any  donkey

good hooks for seeking bar discipline when a lawyer acts like a jerk in public, outside

of the practice of law.  The story started at Eric Muller’s website Is that Legal? 

and revolves around a silly, insulting comment sent by lawyer David L. Gearhart,

J.D., CPA, MBA, who is a member of the Illinois and Indiana bars, and a 2001

graduate of John Marshall Law School.  [Brian Leiter first suggested referring

Gearhart to the Illinois Grievance Committe.] As I commented at LSF, this seems to

be an instance where e-shaming — letting the world discover David Gearhart’s

conduct through Google, Yahoo! et al – is both sufficient and appropriate.



  • One thing I will say for Gearhart:  he at least was willing to put his

    name to his email statement – that’s a couple steps up the maturity and

    evolutionary ladder from the lawyer (and law student) worms who

    slur and insult others anonymously.

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