Comments on: the published haiku of david giacalone (2005 – 2008) http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/ breathless punditry and one-breath poetry with David Giacalone Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:58:52 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: old pajamas http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-217741 old pajamas Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:27:21 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-217741 okay, and thank you...pajamas okay, and thank you…pajamas

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-217736 David Giacalone Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:45:17 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-217736 I'm grateful for the compliment, Alan/pajamas. We seem to have a different notion about rating/grading haiku, which is fine with me. I'm more a believer in a letter scale (F thru A or A+) than a precise numerical one (like 1 thru 100), or a purely subjective notion of "best." Like a world-class beauty, once a poem gets A+, it's purely a matter of today's subjective preference (and maybe what I had for dinner), that would make one "better" or "best." For example, if an editor is doing a good job, it seems to me that 20% of the poems in any one issue of a good haiku journal could reasonably be chosen as "best in issue." For my own poems, I might with difficulty tell you the 6 or 12 poems I like the most or am most proud of. But, choosing the best is simply beyond my ability or inclination. There are far too many things that a poet is trying to do with haiku to say that one poem out of a large number noticeably stands out above the rest. On the other hand, hearing your approach surely gives me something to think about. Thanks again for taking the time to leave your kind appraisal. p.s. As for bocce, don't even get me started on the villains and fools that I've seen playing that sport. I’m grateful for the compliment, Alan/pajamas. We seem to have a different notion about rating/grading haiku, which is fine with me. I’m more a believer in a letter scale (F thru A or A+) than a precise numerical one (like 1 thru 100), or a purely subjective notion of “best.” Like a world-class beauty, once a poem gets A+, it’s purely a matter of today’s subjective preference (and maybe what I had for dinner), that would make one “better” or “best.”

For example, if an editor is doing a good job, it seems to me that 20% of the poems in any one issue of a good haiku journal could reasonably be chosen as “best in issue.” For my own poems, I might with difficulty tell you the 6 or 12 poems I like the most or am most proud of. But, choosing the best is simply beyond my ability or inclination. There are far too many things that a poet is trying to do with haiku to say that one poem out of a large number noticeably stands out above the rest.

On the other hand, hearing your approach surely gives me something to think about. Thanks again for taking the time to leave your kind appraisal.

p.s. As for bocce, don’t even get me started on the villains and fools that I’ve seen playing that sport.

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pajamas

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I think the haiku I referred to (of yours) is brilliant, shines more brightly than the other stars in your sky. I’ve given you my opinion regarding what I think of yours is best. Man, I’m complimenting you. Haiku and children are vastly different. Poets do try to say what they mean; lawyers and politicians try to convince that they mean what they say. If poets don’t, can’t, won’t choose, conclude what is their best work, then I believe they lack curiousity about what they do………It’s lower case,

old pajamas

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-217724 David Giacalone Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:34:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-217724 Just think how weird the world would seem if poets and lawyers (or even politicians) started saying what they mean! Yes, OP, being on this page, that is one of my own poems. As with most parents and children, I would not want to choose which of my poems I thought was best. Just think how weird the world would seem if poets and lawyers (or even politicians) started saying what they mean! Yes, OP, being on this page, that is one of my own poems. As with most parents and children, I would not want to choose which of my poems I thought was best.

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Sorry, I wasn’t being specific; did not mean the work of other poets’ contributions to your blog.

pajamas

p.s. I know…one should say what one means………………

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I thought this was one of your haiku; wasn’t speaking about anyone else.

old pajamas

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-217718 David Giacalone Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:25:14 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-217718 Hello, Old Pajamas [aka Alan Segal]. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I'm glad you like the poem. I'm not quite willing to agree that, out of the thousands of poems here by two dozen fine haijin, it's "by far the most on the mark work" at f/k/a. Of course, I don't know of which mark you speak. Hello, Old Pajamas [aka Alan Segal]. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I’m glad you like the poem. I’m not quite willing to agree that, out of the thousands of poems here by two dozen fine haijin, it’s “by far the most on the mark work” at f/k/a. Of course, I don’t know of which mark you speak.

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By far the most on the mark work in your blog, with the straight ahead humor and pathos of Issa:

her words sting-
the mosquitos take me
just as I am

old pajamas

]]> By: david giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-214913 david giacalone Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:30:48 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-214913 Many thanks, Ed. I'm honored to be the Host here at f/k/a, with dagosan sneaking in thanks to nepotism. Many thanks, Ed. I’m honored to be the Host here at f/k/a, with dagosan sneaking in thanks to nepotism.

]]> By: ed markowski http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-214911 ed markowski Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:19:14 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-214911 david, a very impressive collection of published poems! unquestionably YOU should be the next honored guest featured on fka... by the way, we finished with 8.4 inches of snow today. ed david,
a very impressive collection of published poems!

unquestionably YOU should be the next honored guest featured on fka…

by the way, we finished with 8.4 inches of snow today.
ed

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-190348 David Giacalone Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:27:48 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-190348 Alan, you've put on blush on my old Sicilian complexion. Many thanks. Your search is right, I have no published books, but am pleased for each publication in a journal or anthology. Alan, you’ve put on blush on my old Sicilian complexion. Many thanks. Your search is right, I have no published books, but am pleased for each publication in a journal or anthology.

]]> By: Alan Summers http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-190339 Alan Summers Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:58:18 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-190339 David, I am amazed that no-one has published you. Please please let me know if you have a book out, searched amazon.com, or let me know of one coming out. These poems are great; they are lucid and refreshing as a much needed cool glass of water in high summer. David,

I am amazed that no-one has published you. Please please let me know if you have a book out, searched amazon.com, or let me know of one coming out.

These poems are great; they are lucid and refreshing as a much needed cool glass of water in high summer.

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-162226 David Giacalone Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:46:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-162226 Thanks for making my day, Carolyn. Your opinion means a lot. Thanks for making my day, Carolyn. Your opinion means a lot.

]]> By: Carolyn Hall http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-162061 Carolyn Hall Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:00:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-162061 I found myself smiling frequently. A lot of very nice individual poems; a real treat to read a body of work like this. Thanks for putting this together to share with us! I found myself smiling frequently. A lot of very nice individual poems; a real treat to read a body of work like this. Thanks for putting this together to share with us!

]]> By: David Giacalone http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2008/02/10/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-161742 David Giacalone Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:28:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/the-published-haiku-of-david-giacalone-2005-2#comment-161742 Many thanks, John. You are too kind, but I sort of like that in both friends and haiku editors. Many thanks, John. You are too kind, but I sort of like that in both friends and haiku editors.

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