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	<title>Comments on: More Online Journalists Jailed Last Year Than Traditional Reporters</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from the Internet and Democracy Project team at the Berkman Center for Internet and Society</description>
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		<title>By: vaibhav</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/idblog/2008/12/05/more-online-journalists-jailed-last-year-than-traditional-reporters/comment-page-1/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>vaibhav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ganesh naik is solved problems of Cidco Promises Navi Mumbai Reporters and journalists Press Club and Residential Colony&lt;/b&gt;

The press is known as the fourth pillar of a democracy but unfortunately they are most often than not neglected by the civic body and the local administration be it NMMC or Police Commissioner ate or CIDCO. And while CIDCO may call Navi Mumbai a complete city....

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<p>The press is known as the fourth pillar of a democracy but unfortunately they are most often than not neglected by the civic body and the local administration be it NMMC or Police Commissioner ate or CIDCO. And while CIDCO may call Navi Mumbai a complete city&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: multimediajournalism.info &#187; Wikileaks leaks Thai Website Blacklist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/idblog/2008/12/05/more-online-journalists-jailed-last-year-than-traditional-reporters/comment-page-1/#comment-4698</link>
		<dc:creator>multimediajournalism.info &#187; Wikileaks leaks Thai Website Blacklist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] journalists as an example and call it a day. Although today many bloggers are being jailed (now, according to Bruce Etling here at Berkman, more frequently than traditional journalists) the mechanisms of state censorship [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] journalists as an example and call it a day. Although today many bloggers are being jailed (now, according to Bruce Etling here at Berkman, more frequently than traditional journalists) the mechanisms of state censorship [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wendell Cochran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendell Cochran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chart accompanying the numbers does not support the conclusion. Aren&#039;t TV and radio &quot;traditional&quot; journalists?

And why are we making this distinction in any case? Especially considering that nearly all &quot;traditional&quot; journalists these days also are being published online, as well.

The real point, which has been made above, is that too many journalists in too many places are being harassed and punished for trying to tell the truth. The medium, in this case, is not the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chart accompanying the numbers does not support the conclusion. Aren&#8217;t TV and radio &#8220;traditional&#8221; journalists?</p>
<p>And why are we making this distinction in any case? Especially considering that nearly all &#8220;traditional&#8221; journalists these days also are being published online, as well.</p>
<p>The real point, which has been made above, is that too many journalists in too many places are being harassed and punished for trying to tell the truth. The medium, in this case, is not the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Onlinejournalisten verdienen kein Geld? : Stephan Humer - Internetsoziologie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onlinejournalisten verdienen kein Geld? : Stephan Humer - Internetsoziologie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sie haben häufig noch ganz andere Probleme. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sie haben häufig noch ganz andere Probleme. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Newspapers are Dying &#124; Whatsup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/idblog/2008/12/05/more-online-journalists-jailed-last-year-than-traditional-reporters/comment-page-1/#comment-3982</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Newspapers are Dying &#124; Whatsup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Internet and Society at Harvard University noted that in December 2008, for the first time, more online journalists were imprisoned than print journalists. In 2008, 48% of all journalists that were imprisoned by censoring governments were online [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Internet and Society at Harvard University noted that in December 2008, for the first time, more online journalists were imprisoned than print journalists. In 2008, 48% of all journalists that were imprisoned by censoring governments were online [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FM Shah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/idblog/2008/12/05/more-online-journalists-jailed-last-year-than-traditional-reporters/comment-page-1/#comment-3892</link>
		<dc:creator>FM Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know why we are here. Because we are looking for truth. Whenever we find the truth in bit and pieces. We find that we were not really looking for truth rather we were looking for an answer. It&#039;s the question that brought us here. Wonderful show of truth.

The fuss blind/deaf world leaders with help of Electronic Media and Press continue to sell and make over various issues like WOT, Taliban and Suicide Bombing has reached ridiculous proportions. Today&#039;s world is very different than we have seen during last couple of decades since advent of TV and Radio. Electronic Media self perception is that Media freedom have empowered public and improved information access to masses. The real mass information and access to people credit actually goes only to Bill Gate, Michael Dell and all those, who made possible PCs, Internet, Bloggers and U-Tube. These various online forums/tools have empowered sincere middle class. By internet these middle class, who have at stake. They interact and cross check what all is happening around them. Electronic Media itself is unable to realize this reality. Internet will soon altogether make irrelevant Anchor Mafia which is playing in hands of international establishment. Such phenomena of life expiry happen with each/every product/service. As an example we see various discussion on revival of Film Cinema in Pakistan. It is almost impossible to revive cinema because TV has substituted Cinema completely during past few decades. Revival of Cinema is just like reviving use of Tonga in place of Taxi or reviving Ink Pot/Nib use in place common Ball Point. New technologies always substitute old technology. 
Some may consider this idea as absurd however TV Anchors most of the times are bounded by policy, time limitation, fears, temptations etc. Any TV channel prime motivation is money, coverage, Ads and sponsors not truth. Whereas common Bolger hailing from middle class dilemma is truth and he does not have any thing at stake. He needs to be heard for change, whereas Electronic Media comprise the same truth needed for change under various pressures/agreements with local/international establishment.  Any human being may not speak truth however he is more inclined toward complete truth rather than listening half or selective truths of various anchors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know why we are here. Because we are looking for truth. Whenever we find the truth in bit and pieces. We find that we were not really looking for truth rather we were looking for an answer. It&#8217;s the question that brought us here. Wonderful show of truth.</p>
<p>The fuss blind/deaf world leaders with help of Electronic Media and Press continue to sell and make over various issues like WOT, Taliban and Suicide Bombing has reached ridiculous proportions. Today&#8217;s world is very different than we have seen during last couple of decades since advent of TV and Radio. Electronic Media self perception is that Media freedom have empowered public and improved information access to masses. The real mass information and access to people credit actually goes only to Bill Gate, Michael Dell and all those, who made possible PCs, Internet, Bloggers and U-Tube. These various online forums/tools have empowered sincere middle class. By internet these middle class, who have at stake. They interact and cross check what all is happening around them. Electronic Media itself is unable to realize this reality. Internet will soon altogether make irrelevant Anchor Mafia which is playing in hands of international establishment. Such phenomena of life expiry happen with each/every product/service. As an example we see various discussion on revival of Film Cinema in Pakistan. It is almost impossible to revive cinema because TV has substituted Cinema completely during past few decades. Revival of Cinema is just like reviving use of Tonga in place of Taxi or reviving Ink Pot/Nib use in place common Ball Point. New technologies always substitute old technology.<br />
Some may consider this idea as absurd however TV Anchors most of the times are bounded by policy, time limitation, fears, temptations etc. Any TV channel prime motivation is money, coverage, Ads and sponsors not truth. Whereas common Bolger hailing from middle class dilemma is truth and he does not have any thing at stake. He needs to be heard for change, whereas Electronic Media comprise the same truth needed for change under various pressures/agreements with local/international establishment.  Any human being may not speak truth however he is more inclined toward complete truth rather than listening half or selective truths of various anchors.</p>
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		<title>By: idteam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/idblog/2008/12/05/more-online-journalists-jailed-last-year-than-traditional-reporters/comment-page-1/#comment-3881</link>
		<dc:creator>idteam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d actually argue for a very high bar for jailing anyone for voicing an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d actually argue for a very high bar for jailing anyone for voicing an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Very worried</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ruddy well should be jailed, for suggesting that in any jurisdiction, it is an acceptable outcome that someone is jailed for writing what they believe to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ruddy well should be jailed, for suggesting that in any jurisdiction, it is an acceptable outcome that someone is jailed for writing what they believe to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kawachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kawachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wording you use suggests you have already decided the journalists are innocent and the police are wrong – there is no evidence for this. Publishing in hard-copy has a series of checks and balances in place (not least an editor looking over one’s shoulder, and shareholders insistent on accountability), while the internet brings opportunities to the masses without always the same rigorous screening of reported ‘facts’. At universities too the number of students passing off plagiarized texts as their own has risen with the use of the internet, as has the number being caught. Perhaps online journalists could develop more acceptable methods – within the laws in which they operate. Of course in oppressive regimes, reporters may be jailed without fair reasons, and some may have turned to the internet to get their stories out to the world : overall I think you should give a more balanced opinion, and a few detailed cases to illustrate your opinion. I hope I don&#039;t get jailed for writing this dissenting view ☺</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wording you use suggests you have already decided the journalists are innocent and the police are wrong – there is no evidence for this. Publishing in hard-copy has a series of checks and balances in place (not least an editor looking over one’s shoulder, and shareholders insistent on accountability), while the internet brings opportunities to the masses without always the same rigorous screening of reported ‘facts’. At universities too the number of students passing off plagiarized texts as their own has risen with the use of the internet, as has the number being caught. Perhaps online journalists could develop more acceptable methods – within the laws in which they operate. Of course in oppressive regimes, reporters may be jailed without fair reasons, and some may have turned to the internet to get their stories out to the world : overall I think you should give a more balanced opinion, and a few detailed cases to illustrate your opinion. I hope I don&#8217;t get jailed for writing this dissenting view ☺</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Oram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Oram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly alarming, no matter what may determine the exact statistics involved, but I&#039;d like to suggest one factor for the greater arrests of bloggers: in countries likely to persecute journalists, there are probably more mechanisms for prior restraint. Licensing, for instance, may weed out potentially dissenting newspapers and radio stations.

Anyway, it&#039;s an alarming statistic, but at least it suggests that bloggers can have an impact. Otherwise they wouldn&#039;t be worth attacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly alarming, no matter what may determine the exact statistics involved, but I&#8217;d like to suggest one factor for the greater arrests of bloggers: in countries likely to persecute journalists, there are probably more mechanisms for prior restraint. Licensing, for instance, may weed out potentially dissenting newspapers and radio stations.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s an alarming statistic, but at least it suggests that bloggers can have an impact. Otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t be worth attacking.</p>
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