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	<title>Comments on: My Trademark Fair Use Project</title>
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	<description>Information, Law, and the Law of Information</description>
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		<title>By: Info/Law &#187; Wal-Queda Defeats Wal-Mart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/03/09/fordham-tfu-essay/comment-page-1/#comment-61222</link>
		<dc:creator>Info/Law &#187; Wal-Queda Defeats Wal-Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new decision from a federal district court in Atlanta illustrates perfectly what I have been saying is right and wrong with trademark fair use [...]</description>
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		<title>By: William McGeveran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/03/09/fordham-tfu-essay/comment-page-1/#comment-50409</link>
		<dc:creator>William McGeveran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to report that the longer piece will be running in the &lt;i&gt;Iowa Law Review&lt;/i&gt; towards the end of 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to report that the longer piece will be running in the <i>Iowa Law Review</i> towards the end of 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: William McGeveran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/03/09/fordham-tfu-essay/comment-page-1/#comment-48917</link>
		<dc:creator>William McGeveran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys.

Derek:  in a word, yes and yes.  And, relatedly, because the very existence of a trademark is defined by subjective consumer understanding rather than objective events (like fixation in copyright), there is a habitual fact-intensiveness to trademark litigation.  In copyright we can just assume for the sake of argument that IP rights might exist and cut directly to the fair use analysis (even if there are rights, it is a fair use...)  TM cases don&#039;t work that way, but they should.

Tim:  I haven&#039;t seen Dennis&#039; patent piece, but there may be some synergy.  I&#039;d say a lot of IP doctrine could use some simpler rules, whether they come from property law or other sources, where excess complexity has grown like kudzu over the initial good intentions of some substantively sensible rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys.</p>
<p>Derek:  in a word, yes and yes.  And, relatedly, because the very existence of a trademark is defined by subjective consumer understanding rather than objective events (like fixation in copyright), there is a habitual fact-intensiveness to trademark litigation.  In copyright we can just assume for the sake of argument that IP rights might exist and cut directly to the fair use analysis (even if there are rights, it is a fair use&#8230;)  TM cases don&#8217;t work that way, but they should.</p>
<p>Tim:  I haven&#8217;t seen Dennis&#8217; patent piece, but there may be some synergy.  I&#8217;d say a lot of IP doctrine could use some simpler rules, whether they come from property law or other sources, where excess complexity has grown like kudzu over the initial good intentions of some substantively sensible rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Bambauer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/03/09/fordham-tfu-essay/comment-page-1/#comment-48894</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Bambauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, Bill! I&#039;m looking forward to reading the piece, and I know law reviews will be fighting for it.

It strikes me that TM&#039;s fair use doctrine is less well-mapped than copyright&#039;s doctrine, and I wonder if this is because we think of marks as &quot;mechanical&quot;: labels, helping consumers find products. If so, might we need to help re-conceptualize trademarks, or trademark theory, in order to arrive at a coherent notion of fair use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, Bill! I&#8217;m looking forward to reading the piece, and I know law reviews will be fighting for it.</p>
<p>It strikes me that TM&#8217;s fair use doctrine is less well-mapped than copyright&#8217;s doctrine, and I wonder if this is because we think of marks as &#8220;mechanical&#8221;: labels, helping consumers find products. If so, might we need to help re-conceptualize trademarks, or trademark theory, in order to arrive at a coherent notion of fair use?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/03/09/fordham-tfu-essay/comment-page-1/#comment-48642</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, Bill, on getting your piece out the door!  I&#039;ve been looking forward to reading this one since first hearing you drop hints about it long ago.  I find your calls for simplification and pragmatism very appealing.  I wonder whether we can use your new piece in support of a more general point that intellectual property law needs more plain-old-property law to help weed out some of the needlessly complicated &lt;i&gt;sui generis&lt;/i&gt; doctrines that have grown up in the IP domain?  Dennis Crouch had a provocative essay a short while back asking why we can&#039;t have a public metes-and-bounds database for &lt;b&gt;patents&lt;/b&gt; the way we do with real estate.  The very audacity of the proposal -- &lt;i&gt;of course&lt;/i&gt; you can&#039;t describe patent rights with the same specificity as real property! who&#039;s going to take the measurements? -- nearly, but not quite, masked the deeper substantive truth it uncovered, to wit: we tolerate a lot more ambiguity in the reach of IP rights (and limitations on those rights) than we ever would in other property domains.  That ambiguity might not be serving anyone, rights holders or the public, as well as the conventional wisdom would suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, Bill, on getting your piece out the door!  I&#8217;ve been looking forward to reading this one since first hearing you drop hints about it long ago.  I find your calls for simplification and pragmatism very appealing.  I wonder whether we can use your new piece in support of a more general point that intellectual property law needs more plain-old-property law to help weed out some of the needlessly complicated <i>sui generis</i> doctrines that have grown up in the IP domain?  Dennis Crouch had a provocative essay a short while back asking why we can&#8217;t have a public metes-and-bounds database for <b>patents</b> the way we do with real estate.  The very audacity of the proposal &#8212; <i>of course</i> you can&#8217;t describe patent rights with the same specificity as real property! who&#8217;s going to take the measurements? &#8212; nearly, but not quite, masked the deeper substantive truth it uncovered, to wit: we tolerate a lot more ambiguity in the reach of IP rights (and limitations on those rights) than we ever would in other property domains.  That ambiguity might not be serving anyone, rights holders or the public, as well as the conventional wisdom would suggest.</p>
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