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	<title>Comments on: Can States Copyright Their Statutes?</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;THE FRIDAY NIGHT RAMBLINGS&#8221; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; August 7, 2009</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-93759</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;THE FRIDAY NIGHT RAMBLINGS&#8221; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; August 7, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can court pleadings,  state regulations, statutes and the rendered opinions of our courts, (see http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/  for an excellent overview.)  I contacted the BOG reps I know, Alan Gallas, Paul Henry, Allen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can court pleadings,  state regulations, statutes and the rendered opinions of our courts, (see <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/ " rel="nofollow">http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/ </a> for an excellent overview.)  I contacted the BOG reps I know, Alan Gallas, Paul Henry, Allen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: betsy stroman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-87993</link>
		<dc:creator>betsy stroman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state of alaska claims copyright protection for all photographs on its website. My impression was that anything published on a website of a public entity is in the public domain.  In other words, I thought that a public entity did not have standing to invoke a copyright claim. Is this wrong? It sounds as if under some circumstances a public entity may have such standing. Could anyone direct me to the applicable provisions of federal copyright law? thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state of alaska claims copyright protection for all photographs on its website. My impression was that anything published on a website of a public entity is in the public domain.  In other words, I thought that a public entity did not have standing to invoke a copyright claim. Is this wrong? It sounds as if under some circumstances a public entity may have such standing. Could anyone direct me to the applicable provisions of federal copyright law? thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: medlaw</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-87507</link>
		<dc:creator>medlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article.  We have reproductions of portions of state codes on our website for user reference purposes.  I had been looking for a summary of the law on this topic.  This is very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article.  We have reproductions of portions of state codes on our website for user reference purposes.  I had been looking for a summary of the law on this topic.  This is very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Info/Law &#187; California: wacka wacka huna kuna, redux?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-63224</link>
		<dc:creator>Info/Law &#187; California: wacka wacka huna kuna, redux?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sping, I blogged here about the State of Oregon&#8217;s attempt to assert copyright over the language and organization of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sping, I blogged here about the State of Oregon&#8217;s attempt to assert copyright over the language and organization of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan D. Sugarman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-52340</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan D. Sugarman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the posted reference to one of the decisions in the  the Matthew Bender &amp; Co. v. West litigation at F.3d 693 (2d Cir. 1998),  even more relevant to the issues here is the  decision in the HyperLaw text part of this litigation, Matthew Bender   v. West, 158. F. 3d 674 (2nd Cir. 1998), aff&#039;g, No. 94 Civ. 0589, 1997 WL 266972 (S.D.N.Y. May 19, 1997, cert. denied sub. nom. West v. Hyperlaw, 526 U.S. 1154 (1999).  West attempt to protect its versions of cases by sprinkling the text with their non-original non-creative editorial &quot;enhancements&quot; was soundly rejected.  

Professor Paterson, whose article is cited above, filed an amicus brief in support of HyperLaw.

Patterson was prescient as to the Oregon claims  - in the brief he states in  his concluding paragraph:

&quot;Moreover, although state judicial opinions are not the subject of this litigation, this Court may take judicial notice of West&#039;s claim for copyright of the opinions of state judges. Oasis Pub. Co. v. West Pub. Co., 924 F. Supp. 918 (D. Minn. 1996). A ruling for West in this case will serve as precedent for West&#039;s claim of copyright for state law. But in our federal system, states are sovereign entities, Seminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida, 517 U.S. 609, 116 S. Ct. 1114, 1122 (1996) (&quot;each State is a sovereign entity in our federal system&quot;), and the sovereign that makes law has a duty to provide the public with access to that law. Thus, adopting West&#039;s argument, federal copyright for law that vests control of access to the law in a private publisher means two things: 1) The federal government has abdicated a sovereign duty and, in doing so, 2) the federal government has invaded the sovereignty of state governments./Footnote25 Section 105 prevents the first, section 103 prevents the second.&quot; 

His Footnote 25 states;

The problem is exacerbated by the fact that copyright law is exclusively federal law. Thus, the copyright statute preempts state law and denies the states any right to adjudicate the claim of West that it has a copyright for state law. 17 U.S.C. § 301.

The opinions and documents are to be found at my web site www.hyperlaw.com

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the posted reference to one of the decisions in the  the Matthew Bender &amp; Co. v. West litigation at F.3d 693 (2d Cir. 1998),  even more relevant to the issues here is the  decision in the HyperLaw text part of this litigation, Matthew Bender   v. West, 158. F. 3d 674 (2nd Cir. 1998), aff&#8217;g, No. 94 Civ. 0589, 1997 WL 266972 (S.D.N.Y. May 19, 1997, cert. denied sub. nom. West v. Hyperlaw, 526 U.S. 1154 (1999).  West attempt to protect its versions of cases by sprinkling the text with their non-original non-creative editorial &#8220;enhancements&#8221; was soundly rejected.  </p>
<p>Professor Paterson, whose article is cited above, filed an amicus brief in support of HyperLaw.</p>
<p>Patterson was prescient as to the Oregon claims  &#8211; in the brief he states in  his concluding paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;Moreover, although state judicial opinions are not the subject of this litigation, this Court may take judicial notice of West&#8217;s claim for copyright of the opinions of state judges. Oasis Pub. Co. v. West Pub. Co., 924 F. Supp. 918 (D. Minn. 1996). A ruling for West in this case will serve as precedent for West&#8217;s claim of copyright for state law. But in our federal system, states are sovereign entities, Seminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida, 517 U.S. 609, 116 S. Ct. 1114, 1122 (1996) (&#8221;each State is a sovereign entity in our federal system&#8221;), and the sovereign that makes law has a duty to provide the public with access to that law. Thus, adopting West&#8217;s argument, federal copyright for law that vests control of access to the law in a private publisher means two things: 1) The federal government has abdicated a sovereign duty and, in doing so, 2) the federal government has invaded the sovereignty of state governments./Footnote25 Section 105 prevents the first, section 103 prevents the second.&#8221; </p>
<p>His Footnote 25 states;</p>
<p>The problem is exacerbated by the fact that copyright law is exclusively federal law. Thus, the copyright statute preempts state law and denies the states any right to adjudicate the claim of West that it has a copyright for state law. 17 U.S.C. § 301.</p>
<p>The opinions and documents are to be found at my web site <a href="http://www.hyperlaw.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hyperlaw.com</a></p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: I Am Not a Lawyer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Adventures in IP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-52088</link>
		<dc:creator>I Am Not a Lawyer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Adventures in IP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] where it gets interesting: Oregon isn&#8217;t claiming copyright in the laws themselves. Indeed, according to what appears to be well-established law, they can&#8217;t. Instead, they&#8217;re claiming copyright in &#8220;the arrangement and subject matter of Oregon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] where it gets interesting: Oregon isn&#8217;t claiming copyright in the laws themselves. Indeed, according to what appears to be well-established law, they can&#8217;t. Instead, they&#8217;re claiming copyright in &#8220;the arrangement and subject matter of Oregon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cease, Desist &#38; Resist - Oregon&#8217;s Copyright Claim on the Oregon Revised Statutes &#171; Legal Research Plus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-52067</link>
		<dc:creator>Cease, Desist &#38; Resist - Oregon&#8217;s Copyright Claim on the Oregon Revised Statutes &#171; Legal Research Plus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have commented on Oregon&#8217;s copyright claims. See Professor Tim Armstrong&#8217;s post &#8220;Can States Copyright Their Statutes?&#8221; on Info/Law and William Patry&#8217;s post &#8220;Oregon goes wacka wacka huna kuna&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have commented on Oregon&#8217;s copyright claims. See Professor Tim Armstrong&#8217;s post &#8220;Can States Copyright Their Statutes?&#8221; on Info/Law and William Patry&#8217;s post &#8220;Oregon goes wacka wacka huna kuna&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Are laws public domain? &#124; MetaFilter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-52032</link>
		<dc:creator>Are laws public domain? &#124; MetaFilter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blog (&quot;Oregon goes wacka wacka huna kuna&quot;) -- ars technica -- The Washington Times -- Info/Law  Support (sort of): Oregon Legal Research (blog)  posted by msalt (21 comments total) 2 users [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blog (&quot;Oregon goes wacka wacka huna kuna&quot;) &#8212; ars technica &#8212; The Washington Times &#8212; Info/Law  Support (sort of): Oregon Legal Research (blog)  posted by msalt (21 comments total) 2 users [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Risch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/04/16/can-states-copyright-their-statutes/comment-page-1/#comment-51447</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Risch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish Veeck had been decided earlier - I could have used a FOIA request to get a copy of the building codes in my city a few years ago while doing a &quot;do-it-yourself&quot; renovation.  It&#039;s tough to follow laws that you have no access to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish Veeck had been decided earlier &#8211; I could have used a FOIA request to get a copy of the building codes in my city a few years ago while doing a &#8220;do-it-yourself&#8221; renovation.  It&#8217;s tough to follow laws that you have no access to!</p>
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