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	<title>Comments on: Rowling 1, Lexicon 0</title>
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		<title>By: Info/Law &#187; Like Voldemort, Potter-Lexicon Suit Rises Again</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/09/08/rowling-1-lexicon-0/comment-page-1/#comment-68713</link>
		<dc:creator>Info/Law &#187; Like Voldemort, Potter-Lexicon Suit Rises Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the original verdict was correct in its outcome (including the minimal statutory damages), I found the reasoning confused in a number of key areas. The Second Circuit should, hopefully, affirm, but with a clear opinion setting straight some of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the original verdict was correct in its outcome (including the minimal statutory damages), I found the reasoning confused in a number of key areas. The Second Circuit should, hopefully, affirm, but with a clear opinion setting straight some of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/09/08/rowling-1-lexicon-0/comment-page-1/#comment-63964</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your commentary. I&#039;ve been summarizing the case over on my blog but didn&#039;t even really get to commentary yet! (Well, except for the footnotes of commentary I just couldn&#039;t help, such as &quot;Why did he have to switch the order of the factors?&quot; I see we agree there.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your commentary. I&#8217;ve been summarizing the case over on my blog but didn&#8217;t even really get to commentary yet! (Well, except for the footnotes of commentary I just couldn&#8217;t help, such as &#8220;Why did he have to switch the order of the factors?&#8221; I see we agree there.)</p>
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		<title>By: On Truth and Clue: J.K. Rowling and Steven Vander Ark : Spontaneous Derivation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/09/08/rowling-1-lexicon-0/comment-page-1/#comment-63872</link>
		<dc:creator>On Truth and Clue: J.K. Rowling and Steven Vander Ark : Spontaneous Derivation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: At Harvard&#8217;s Info/Law blog, Derek Baumbauer speaks. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Derek Bambauer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/09/08/rowling-1-lexicon-0/comment-page-1/#comment-63751</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Bambauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you&#039;re exactly right. The 3-step analysis should have been labeled more carefully: it&#039;s intended to scout out violations of the derivative works right. If the answer to #1 - substantial similarity - is right, then we need to go to #3 (or, possibly, one of the other weird loopholes in Sections 108-122). 

It&#039;s worth nothing that there are IP folks who disagree with me: they believe there are adapted / secondary works that do not qualify as derivatives and hence don&#039;t require analysis under 107 at all. This means that, in the zone of possible adaptations, some will potentially infringe and some will not - but because they don&#039;t meet the statutory definition of &quot;derivative work.&quot;

My own view is that this describes an attractive vision of how copyright law should work, but I disagree strongly that it does in fact work this way. It&#039;s standard blackletter law that if you have a work &quot;based upon&quot; a prior one with substantial similarity to it, it&#039;s a derivative work.

I hope to have time today or tomorrow to find some good 2d Circuit precedent to help make this more clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you&#8217;re exactly right. The 3-step analysis should have been labeled more carefully: it&#8217;s intended to scout out violations of the derivative works right. If the answer to #1 &#8211; substantial similarity &#8211; is right, then we need to go to #3 (or, possibly, one of the other weird loopholes in Sections 108-122). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth nothing that there are IP folks who disagree with me: they believe there are adapted / secondary works that do not qualify as derivatives and hence don&#8217;t require analysis under 107 at all. This means that, in the zone of possible adaptations, some will potentially infringe and some will not &#8211; but because they don&#8217;t meet the statutory definition of &#8220;derivative work.&#8221;</p>
<p>My own view is that this describes an attractive vision of how copyright law should work, but I disagree strongly that it does in fact work this way. It&#8217;s standard blackletter law that if you have a work &#8220;based upon&#8221; a prior one with substantial similarity to it, it&#8217;s a derivative work.</p>
<p>I hope to have time today or tomorrow to find some good 2d Circuit precedent to help make this more clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2008/09/08/rowling-1-lexicon-0/comment-page-1/#comment-63747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, great post!  I wonder whether, on your fourth bullet point, we really need all 3 steps in your proposed 3-step analysis.  Consider the substantially similar copy that does not add new expression and hence is not a derivative work: that would infringe the reproduction right (and require us to proceed to your step 3, asking whether the infringement is excused under fair use or some other doctrine).  Your step 2 is useful for differentiating infringements of the derivative works right (the court&#039;s key concern here, apparently) from infringements of the reproduction right, but the analysis properly goes to step 3 any time the answer to step 1 is &quot;yes,&quot; don&#039;t we?  It&#039;s not necessary that steps 1 and 2 &lt;b&gt;both&lt;/b&gt; be &quot;yes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, great post!  I wonder whether, on your fourth bullet point, we really need all 3 steps in your proposed 3-step analysis.  Consider the substantially similar copy that does not add new expression and hence is not a derivative work: that would infringe the reproduction right (and require us to proceed to your step 3, asking whether the infringement is excused under fair use or some other doctrine).  Your step 2 is useful for differentiating infringements of the derivative works right (the court&#8217;s key concern here, apparently) from infringements of the reproduction right, but the analysis properly goes to step 3 any time the answer to step 1 is &#8220;yes,&#8221; don&#8217;t we?  It&#8217;s not necessary that steps 1 and 2 <b>both</b> be &#8220;yes.&#8221;</p>
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