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	<title>Comments on: Charges Framed against 5 in 1984 Pogroms Case</title>
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		<title>By: psingh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/jaskaran/2005/07/01/charges-framed-against-5-in-1984-pogroms-case/#comment-41</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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True human rights if you allege that advocating human rights of a minority group is a political agenda. You are right. It is political and it is an agenda. It should also be commended. 

You say people who do this, secretly advocate violent activities and post here to allude to the tireless work of this Yale/Harvard Law graduate. Please specify what is violent in her activities? She has provided her full name behind her work which you allude to as terrorism. If she this Harvard Law School graduate is a terrorist for giving to human rights and you are the "True Human Rights" then I'm sure you have nothing to fear and will provide your complete identity. 

Your post is angry with a very obvious 'us against them mentality'. This is an ingredient for things such as racism, ethnic cleansing and human rights abuses. Perhaps you should support the excellent work of J Kaur and ask her for support in turn, I have no doubt she would be interested in advocating for the protection of human rights of all whether they be Sikh, Hindu or otherwise.</description>
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<p>True human rights if you allege that advocating human rights of a minority group is a political agenda. You are right. It is political and it is an agenda. It should also be commended. </p>
<p>You say people who do this, secretly advocate violent activities and post here to allude to the tireless work of this Yale/Harvard Law graduate. Please specify what is violent in her activities? She has provided her full name behind her work which you allude to as terrorism. If she this Harvard Law School graduate is a terrorist for giving to human rights and you are the &#8220;True Human Rights&#8221; then I&#8217;m sure you have nothing to fear and will provide your complete identity. </p>
<p>Your post is angry with a very obvious &#8216;us against them mentality&#8217;. This is an ingredient for things such as racism, ethnic cleansing and human rights abuses. Perhaps you should support the excellent work of J Kaur and ask her for support in turn, I have no doubt she would be interested in advocating for the protection of human rights of all whether they be Sikh, Hindu or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: asingh</title>
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		<dc:creator>asingh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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Firstly, I think the infamous abuses perpetrated in this region of the world can only be prevented with internal effort, and looking to blame anyone else for these atrocious acts is frankly petty.  Secondly, I disagree with the last part of the above comment to which there appears to be attached a number of vague qualifiers.  As I'm sure everyone will agree, by its very definition, human rights cannot be selective.</description>
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<p>Firstly, I think the infamous abuses perpetrated in this region of the world can only be prevented with internal effort, and looking to blame anyone else for these atrocious acts is frankly petty.  Secondly, I disagree with the last part of the above comment to which there appears to be attached a number of vague qualifiers.  As I&#8217;m sure everyone will agree, by its very definition, human rights cannot be selective.</p>
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		<title>By: True Human Rights</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Human Rights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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The western countries are home to many terrorist sympathizers and finaciers from the world over. These sympathizers are overlooked as long as they create or patronize terror or other criminal activities in other countries.

These sympathizers secretly advocate violent activities in third world countries like India for their own petty motives. 

Examples are Khalistan, Kashmir etc.

The modus operandi is simple. Create an atmosphere of terror in India by planting bus bombs, blowing off airplanes, hijacking airlines, lining up Hindus and shooting them down, barbaric killings of innocent civilians.

The 'justification' or apology used by so called Human Rights elite class (many of whom sit in the west and have dubious track records) is that India needs to look at the 'root cause' of terror. The perverted logic (or reasoning) of many of these human rights activists goes that terror by terrorists (ahem or is that 'freedom fighter'?) is excusable because of the "root cause" phenomena. Obviously they do condemn such terrorist acts (when pressed) only to cover up their duplicity and sound nice. Deep down however things may be different.

Now on to the modus operandi. When the state hits back to stop the violence (and goofs up completely), the Human Rights groups come down with a heavy hand. They had been sleeping (purposely) for so long when the terrorists where having a free run. Now suddenly the HR groups start condemning the government and a nation. 

To bolster their case they come up with a lot of the usual stuff (which will catch the attention of anti India lobbies) - Dalit torture, Christian attacks, VHP terror, Hindu right wing problems etc etc.

Of course they conveniently forget (or may be add a small foot note to the bottom of the page to sound neutral) that Sikh fundamentalist groups are making hilarious and idiotic comments every day (the latest one was that all Sikh characters in Hindi movies have to be vetted by the SGPC). They forget about the Deobandi groups' fundamentalist behaviour when it comes to the Imrana affair. They don't bother too much if Christian groups vandalize a hall for showing 'Sins".  Similarly they don't bother if Sikh terrorist groups blow off a movie theatre showing a movie which they don't like, killing innocent people. But the human rights activists do get very angry if Hindu fundoos  vandalize a hall showing Fire. Any normal and morally upright person knows that all such acts are condemnable. But many HR activists condemn stuff selectively.

Anyone with common sense can see through the veil of moderation or sophisticated BS about selective human rights.

By the way most Indians support a complete investigation of the 84 Sikh riots when thousands of innocent Sikhs were butchered. Those who committed the crimes need to be punished. But Indians also will support a complete investigation of how  Sikh terror in Punjab, Delhi and other places started. Who financed them and from which countries? Who lobbied for them behind the scenes? Who are their backers? Where are these cells in the west? What are they doing right now. Indians want these people to be exposed and punished because they caused the death of thousands of innocent Indians (Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Muslims).

Will Human Rights activists be BOLD enocugh to support such an investigation? Or will they continue to have SELECTIVE AMNESIA?

My bets are that dubious human rights activists will continue to have their own agenda and will only be selective about HR to bolster their agenda. They have little time for HR violations which don't fit their agenda.</description>
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<p>The western countries are home to many terrorist sympathizers and finaciers from the world over. These sympathizers are overlooked as long as they create or patronize terror or other criminal activities in other countries.</p>
<p>These sympathizers secretly advocate violent activities in third world countries like India for their own petty motives. </p>
<p>Examples are Khalistan, Kashmir etc.</p>
<p>The modus operandi is simple. Create an atmosphere of terror in India by planting bus bombs, blowing off airplanes, hijacking airlines, lining up Hindus and shooting them down, barbaric killings of innocent civilians.</p>
<p>The &#8216;justification&#8217; or apology used by so called Human Rights elite class (many of whom sit in the west and have dubious track records) is that India needs to look at the &#8216;root cause&#8217; of terror. The perverted logic (or reasoning) of many of these human rights activists goes that terror by terrorists (ahem or is that &#8216;freedom fighter&#8217;?) is excusable because of the &#8220;root cause&#8221; phenomena. Obviously they do condemn such terrorist acts (when pressed) only to cover up their duplicity and sound nice. Deep down however things may be different.</p>
<p>Now on to the modus operandi. When the state hits back to stop the violence (and goofs up completely), the Human Rights groups come down with a heavy hand. They had been sleeping (purposely) for so long when the terrorists where having a free run. Now suddenly the HR groups start condemning the government and a nation. </p>
<p>To bolster their case they come up with a lot of the usual stuff (which will catch the attention of anti India lobbies) - Dalit torture, Christian attacks, VHP terror, Hindu right wing problems etc etc.</p>
<p>Of course they conveniently forget (or may be add a small foot note to the bottom of the page to sound neutral) that Sikh fundamentalist groups are making hilarious and idiotic comments every day (the latest one was that all Sikh characters in Hindi movies have to be vetted by the SGPC). They forget about the Deobandi groups&#8217; fundamentalist behaviour when it comes to the Imrana affair. They don&#8217;t bother too much if Christian groups vandalize a hall for showing &#8216;Sins&#8221;.  Similarly they don&#8217;t bother if Sikh terrorist groups blow off a movie theatre showing a movie which they don&#8217;t like, killing innocent people. But the human rights activists do get very angry if Hindu fundoos  vandalize a hall showing Fire. Any normal and morally upright person knows that all such acts are condemnable. But many HR activists condemn stuff selectively.</p>
<p>Anyone with common sense can see through the veil of moderation or sophisticated BS about selective human rights.</p>
<p>By the way most Indians support a complete investigation of the 84 Sikh riots when thousands of innocent Sikhs were butchered. Those who committed the crimes need to be punished. But Indians also will support a complete investigation of how  Sikh terror in Punjab, Delhi and other places started. Who financed them and from which countries? Who lobbied for them behind the scenes? Who are their backers? Where are these cells in the west? What are they doing right now. Indians want these people to be exposed and punished because they caused the death of thousands of innocent Indians (Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Muslims).</p>
<p>Will Human Rights activists be BOLD enocugh to support such an investigation? Or will they continue to have SELECTIVE AMNESIA?</p>
<p>My bets are that dubious human rights activists will continue to have their own agenda and will only be selective about HR to bolster their agenda. They have little time for HR violations which don&#8217;t fit their agenda.</p>
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