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I logged notes from the discussion at irc://irc.freenode.net/harvardbitspodcas….

I removed portions of the discussion that weren’t directly related to transcribing the session. If you contributed something you want in the log, let me know and I’ll put it back in. If you see your words here and you want credit or don’t want credit, let me know and I’ll change attribution or remove the text as appropriate.

: Tony Cahn is presenting

: he’s talking about the problem I was trying to solve

: we needed another cable to connect his laptop to the projector

: and we/he didn’t have the right connection

: er, adapter

: Tony’s about to play some podcasts he found at random

: I’ll try to listen

: but can’t guarantee transcriptions of the sound

: = )

comment: why not

: they might contain offensive topics/language

: I may not be able to type that quickly

: my fingers don’t know how to spell some of those words ; )

: it’s really, really loud

: Adam Curry

: Radio Brothers’ Podcast

: independent Christian music

: Dave’s Usher

: Evil Genius Chronicles

: Let’s go California

: electric guitar

: black new yorker radio show

: conservative perspective

: I missed one

: not real music

comment: evil genius chronicles

: something to do with a band and drugs

: dancing for mental health

: kernel panic who computer crashed

: (sounds like me)

: “source code problem can you come back in 15 minutes”

comment: recent daily source code

comment: adam spilling tea

: something about a mouse pad

: yeah, that’s what it is

: lol

: you listening in?

comment: this is from DSC about two days ago

: I love radio .org

: from Berlin, Germany

comment: this was pretty hilarious

: or I should say aus Berlin, Deutschland
* sings “can’t take Texas out of the girl”

: negative publicity in St. Louis

: PodBay news?

comment: where’s dawn and drew?

: real reviews

comment: reel

: makeup make up

: “I have topics. Frontline on PBS last night. how Wal-Mart is …”

: something about John Kerry

: deep, talk radio kind of voice

: “I can see! I can see!”

: big public speaking voice

: he’s doing soundbites, not necessarily named

: “It was shitty before Wal-Mart came. It’s shitty after Wal-Mart came.”

: something about a dark period in American history

: “If I gave you $5, would you let me be your first commercial person?”

: “I’ll always tell you about when we’re reviewing”

: “rating system for podcast”

: I just missed another forgot it

: “You can go sit in a field and eat carrots. Share your open source.”

: “the fact that I’ve got so many listeners means people must like the show”

: “someone bet me $10 that podcasting wouldn’t be around next year”

: something else about John Kerry

: “Podcasting
: the next big thing” in the London Times

: “Good night Internet”

: “Thanks for subscribing, y’all”

: dailysourcecode.org

comment: inkernet


: er, excuse me dailysourcecode.com

: sorry having hearing problems, too ; )

: Tony was going to jump right in, but someone stopped him to get an explanation of podcasting

: Tony’s explaining how there are sound files on the net already

: how this is different is that people are excited about the idea

: of having a regular flow

: of programs or sound files

: that are easy for people to receive

: and easy for people to make because of technological advances

: Ori’s explaining there are 3 separate layers to it

: one layer is content creators

: the people downloading files is the second layer

: using feeds, doing time shifting, is the third layer

: automatic downloading is in that layer, too

: Tony says there’s a fourth layer

: an awareness on the part of the public that this is a neat idea

: “What if I do this on my own?”

: what’s happened in the last four months is that it went from 0 podcasts to 700 podcasts

comment: there are many programs that capture audio

: some have 70,000 listeners

: but numbers are often exaggerated

: Dave Winer is saying Adam [Curry] got a lot of it going

: mentioned a project he (Dave) did with Christopher Lydon, formerly of the radio show The Connection, while they were at the Berkman Center as fellows

: (I think Chris is still a fellow, Dave is not)

: Dave says the flexibility of podcasting is one powerful aspect of it

: it doesn’t necessarily make sense when you’re at your computer

: most aren’t just background noise

: Charlie Nesson was doing something akin to podcasting, but without the distribution system

: the phenomenon, according to Dave, is the growth

: podcasting has been around, like blogging, but people didn’t call it podcasting “back then”

: can we use podcasting to get around govt controlled media?

Ori: ipodder.org

: thanks

Ori: http
://www.ipodder.org/

: Dave plugged the next international session about tools

: Ori gave a good analogy between syndicating blogs and syndicating radio shows

: I missed the woman’s initial question

: but now we’re sort of talking about tools

: q: will we come to a point soon where

: a podcaster will say to a radio host

: “You’re not a real podcaster”

: what do you think of that?

Ori: Jay Rosen quote
: “One day bloggers will tell journalists
: you’re not a real blogger.”

: Tony’s going to answer

: yeah, exactly based on what Jay said on Friday

: Dave
: people believe podcasting can be as big as blogging

: playing music can be a challenge because of rights

: Ori reiterated a point from an earlier international session

: that many people aren’t literate

: by doing work via sound, people might be able to reach illerate people

: The Dowbrigade emphasizes that time shifting is important

: he teaches English to people who don’t speak it as a native language

: and sees podcasting as a tool to reach people who want to learn

: follow his classes

: but can’t go to his classes

: maybe he can reach someone in another timezone who can listen while they drive or whatever

: a woman raises concerns about a Republican Congress cutting funding to NPR

: when there’s no more funding, she’ll tune into podcasting more for content

: a guy in the other corner is talking about how “as a radio announcer”

: he sees podcasting as an iteration of the same thing

: I guess he works for WGBH Radio in Boston

: Bob somebody

: (I don’t listen to WGBH)

comment: he’s someone who is slightly above Tony Kahn

comment: who got, as tony said, wgbh to podcast

: something about embedding links in audio files

: giving out URLs to feeds

: Tony
: people have evolved lots of different ways to use podcasting

: with podcasting, there’s limited information in the feed

: with blog feeds, they’re easier to find and go back to the original source

Ori: http
://audio.weblogs.com

: Dave’s talking about getting flamed

comment: actually you can skim a podcast

comment: it’s called skipping

comment: use your ipod scroll wheel


: Dave was saying that with sound, people can tell how someone means something better than when someone just types words

: someone in the audience

: brought up how

: with podcasting

: someone doesn’t have to fill and hour

: er, an hour

: or a set time for a show

: he said he’d much rather listen to seven minutes of good content

: than twenty minutes of callers saying nothing

: q: from Charlie Nesson, law prof, Berkman founder

: what about ads on iPods?

: with public radio or many stations

: everyone would skip the pledge drives

: and ads

: how does that impact revenue?

: Bob from WGBH said he couldn’t speak for the industry

: but public radio sells content to audible.com

: and something else

: (I’m just not as good at transcriptions as sj)

: Christopher Lydon is in the room

: Tony just asked him for his take on things

: he’s talking about the equipment he uses

: Dave’s talking about how much he admires Chris and his work

: and how he adopted Chris’ methods to do his own radio stuff

: he’s emphasizing how it might be important to do podcasting every day

: many people can join a podcast

: Tony just mentioned that a number of podcasters think people are listening when they’re doing their show

: even if they’re all alone

Josh Ain, who’s entered the Feedster developer’s conference, talked me into going to the podcasting talk over lunch–just in case I get an iPod soon.

Tony Cahn of WBUR is presenting.

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