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	<title>Comments for Middle East Strategy at Harvard</title>
	<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh</link>
	<description>Olin Institute :: Weatherhead Center for International Affairs</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on ASMEA&#8217;s debut by Raymond Ibrahim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/#comment-530</link>
		<author>Raymond Ibrahim</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/#comment-530</guid>
		<description>As a person who had (more or less) vowed never to bother with most Middle Eastern conferences—I have been to too many farces on both the university and governmental level—ASMEA's recent &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/" rel="nofollow"&gt;inaugural conference&lt;/a&gt; was a breath of fresh air.  

Why?  What makes it different?  Two main reasons come to mind:

First, the atmosphere of "you're either with us or against us"—i.e., you're either an apologist for radical Islam, who believes that Israel is the source of all woes, who filters all data through a secularist/materialistic epistemology, or otherwise you're a hate-mongering, "Islamophobic," simpleton—was refreshingly absent.   

Which, of course, is the purpose of the organization: a return to objectivity—in all its ugliness.

Second, the presentations revolved around topics that actually mattered and were relevant—again, something of a rarity in this field.  Presentations revolved around: Islamic jurisprudence &lt;i&gt;(usul al-fiqh)&lt;/i&gt; and hermeneutics; sharia law and jihad's role; war and peace in Islam; the problematic practice of &lt;i&gt;takfir;&lt;/i&gt; and apocalyptic discourse in Islam. Compare these pressing themes to one of the Center of Contemporary Arab Studies' most recent presentations, "Orientalism and Sexual Rights." 

The point here is not so much that "orientalism" and "gender studies" are unimportant aspects when studying the Middle East; far from it. Rather, the point is that there are many extremely important and pressing topics—such as jihad, sharia law, and radical Islam—that the world needs answers to, but that are being virtually ignored by those who are most expected to provide an answer.  

In the place of this void, it was inevitable that a more relevant and objective organization studying the Middle East, Africa, and the Islamic world would come into being. More's the pity it did not come sooner.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/raymond_ibrahim/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Raymond Ibrahim&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person who had (more or less) vowed never to bother with most Middle Eastern conferences—I have been to too many farces on both the university and governmental level—ASMEA&#8217;s recent <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/" rel="nofollow">inaugural conference</a> was a breath of fresh air.  </p>
<p>Why?  What makes it different?  Two main reasons come to mind:</p>
<p>First, the atmosphere of &#8220;you&#8217;re either with us or against us&#8221;—i.e., you&#8217;re either an apologist for radical Islam, who believes that Israel is the source of all woes, who filters all data through a secularist/materialistic epistemology, or otherwise you&#8217;re a hate-mongering, &#8220;Islamophobic,&#8221; simpleton—was refreshingly absent.   </p>
<p>Which, of course, is the purpose of the organization: a return to objectivity—in all its ugliness.</p>
<p>Second, the presentations revolved around topics that actually mattered and were relevant—again, something of a rarity in this field.  Presentations revolved around: Islamic jurisprudence <i>(usul al-fiqh)</i> and hermeneutics; sharia law and jihad&#8217;s role; war and peace in Islam; the problematic practice of <i>takfir;</i> and apocalyptic discourse in Islam. Compare these pressing themes to one of the Center of Contemporary Arab Studies&#8217; most recent presentations, &#8220;Orientalism and Sexual Rights.&#8221; </p>
<p>The point here is not so much that &#8220;orientalism&#8221; and &#8220;gender studies&#8221; are unimportant aspects when studying the Middle East; far from it. Rather, the point is that there are many extremely important and pressing topics—such as jihad, sharia law, and radical Islam—that the world needs answers to, but that are being virtually ignored by those who are most expected to provide an answer.  </p>
<p>In the place of this void, it was inevitable that a more relevant and objective organization studying the Middle East, Africa, and the Islamic world would come into being. More&#8217;s the pity it did not come sooner.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/raymond_ibrahim/" rel="nofollow">Raymond Ibrahim</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerating terrorism in Yemen by Adam Garfinkle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/#comment-529</link>
		<author>Adam Garfinkle</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/#comment-529</guid>
		<description>Daniel Byman has it &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/" rel="nofollow"&gt;right&lt;/a&gt; on Yemen, a dangerous place that gets too little attention. He mentions Gregory Johnsen in his post and rightly so: He's actually spent a fair bit of time there. For a fuller picture of Yemen's situation and the government's deal with the bad guys, see Johnsen's 2006 essay, "Well Gone Dry: A Letter from San'a," &lt;i&gt;The American Interest&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.the-american-interest.com/ai2/article.cfm?Id=195&#38;MId=6" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/adam_garfinkle/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adam Garfinkle&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Byman has it <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/" rel="nofollow">right</a> on Yemen, a dangerous place that gets too little attention. He mentions Gregory Johnsen in his post and rightly so: He&#8217;s actually spent a fair bit of time there. For a fuller picture of Yemen&#8217;s situation and the government&#8217;s deal with the bad guys, see Johnsen&#8217;s 2006 essay, &#8220;Well Gone Dry: A Letter from San&#8217;a,&#8221; <i>The American Interest</i>, <a href="http://www.the-american-interest.com/ai2/article.cfm?Id=195&amp;MId=6" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/adam_garfinkle/" rel="nofollow">Adam Garfinkle</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tolerating terrorism in Yemen by Bernard Haykel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/#comment-528</link>
		<author>Bernard Haykel</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/#comment-528</guid>
		<description>Daniel Byman's &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/" rel="nofollow"&gt;posting&lt;/a&gt; on Yemen is accurate and underscores that the different tack that Yemen has adopted in dealing with Al Qaeda is largely the result of the following factors: 

1. There is a politically significant domestic constituency of Al Qaeda sympathizers in Yemen and as such the constraints of managing this group are internal to Yemen's domestic scene. The government in Sanaa cannot eject easily this group from the body politic or is unwilling to do so.

2. Appeasing the United States does not trump the Yemeni government's desire to keep Al Qaeda and its local sympathizers on side.

3. Yemen has a relationship with Salafi-Jihadis that pre-dates 9/11 and has used these forces against local Zaydi-Shiites, Sufis as well as the Socialists.  

In other words, the Al Qaeda-type people are a useful, perhaps necessary, tool in the hands of the government in Sanaa, one which it will not relinquish easily.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/bernard_haykel/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bernard Haykel&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Byman&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/tolerating_terrorism_in_yemen/" rel="nofollow">posting</a> on Yemen is accurate and underscores that the different tack that Yemen has adopted in dealing with Al Qaeda is largely the result of the following factors: </p>
<p>1. There is a politically significant domestic constituency of Al Qaeda sympathizers in Yemen and as such the constraints of managing this group are internal to Yemen&#8217;s domestic scene. The government in Sanaa cannot eject easily this group from the body politic or is unwilling to do so.</p>
<p>2. Appeasing the United States does not trump the Yemeni government&#8217;s desire to keep Al Qaeda and its local sympathizers on side.</p>
<p>3. Yemen has a relationship with Salafi-Jihadis that pre-dates 9/11 and has used these forces against local Zaydi-Shiites, Sufis as well as the Socialists.  </p>
<p>In other words, the Al Qaeda-type people are a useful, perhaps necessary, tool in the hands of the government in Sanaa, one which it will not relinquish easily.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/bernard_haykel/" rel="nofollow">Bernard Haykel</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on ASMEA&#8217;s debut by Philip Carl Salzman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/#comment-520</link>
		<author>Philip Carl Salzman</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/#comment-520</guid>
		<description>I joined ASMEA and participated in its &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/" rel="nofollow"&gt;first annual conference&lt;/a&gt;. For me, ASMEA provides an alternative to the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), which has tended to take an obscurantist or apologist line toward Islamism and its threat to the West, as well as a pro-Arab line on the Arab-Israel conflict. The "postcolonial" approach so prevalent in MESA, blaming all problems of the Middle East on the West, was not much in evidence at the ASMEA conference. Many of the difficult issues of contemporary conflict were tackled head-on in ASMEA conference papers. And for once, we academics were not just talking to each other. The conference was enriched by the participation, and by some papers, from members of independent think tanks and agencies, members of various governments, and members of the military. There were definitely more military crew cuts than appear at most academic conferences. This is a constructive development. We want academics to be more realistic, and we want agencies, governments, and the military to be better informed. ASMEA has found a fruitful niche, and I look forward to future conferences.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/philip_carl_salzman/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Philip Carl Salzman&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined ASMEA and participated in its <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/05/asmea_debut/" rel="nofollow">first annual conference</a>. For me, ASMEA provides an alternative to the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), which has tended to take an obscurantist or apologist line toward Islamism and its threat to the West, as well as a pro-Arab line on the Arab-Israel conflict. The &#8220;postcolonial&#8221; approach so prevalent in MESA, blaming all problems of the Middle East on the West, was not much in evidence at the ASMEA conference. Many of the difficult issues of contemporary conflict were tackled head-on in ASMEA conference papers. And for once, we academics were not just talking to each other. The conference was enriched by the participation, and by some papers, from members of independent think tanks and agencies, members of various governments, and members of the military. There were definitely more military crew cuts than appear at most academic conferences. This is a constructive development. We want academics to be more realistic, and we want agencies, governments, and the military to be better informed. ASMEA has found a fruitful niche, and I look forward to future conferences.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/philip_carl_salzman/" rel="nofollow">Philip Carl Salzman</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on U.S.-Syria: Who&#8217;s converting whom? by Itamar Rabinovich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-485</link>
		<author>Itamar Rabinovich</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-485</guid>
		<description>The trilateral relationship among the United States, Israel and Syria was transformed in 2000-2001 from what it had been through most of the 1990s. The first Bush administration in its final months and the Clinton administration collaborated with three Israeli prime ministers in trying to bring about a peace settlement with Syria that would be intimately linked to a dramatic improvement of U.S.-Syrian relations. This effort collapsed in 2000. By 2001 Hafez al-Asad was dead, Bill Clinton ended his term and Ehud Barak was defeated by Ariel Sharon. George W. Bush was not interested in the Arab-Israeli peace process, certainly not in the Syrian track; Sharon was determined to focus on the Palestinian issue and was opposed to withdrawal from the Golan.

The Bush administration's relationship with Syria deteriorated during the next few years. Syria had been an ally of Iran, a sponsor of terrorist organizations and a collector of WMD. This original list of U.S. grievances was significantly lengthened by two other issues: Syria's important aid to the Sunni insurrection in Iraq and its efforts to stifle Lebanese independence and democracy, cherished by President Bush himself. Since the Bush administration decided not to engage Syria on one hand and not to attack it on the other, its policy of punishing and isolating Syria has remained largely ineffective.

When Ehud Olmert, Sharon's successor, began to talk about resuming negotiations with Syria, he was told by the Bush administration that this was not a good idea. Recently, talk of such resumption has been given more play. Oddly it was prompted by Washington's decision to expose details of Israel's destruction on September 7, 2007 of a nuclear reactor being built in northern Syria by North Korea. At the time, both the United and Israel chose to play down this major event. In the past few weeks a confluence of Congressional and intra-administration pressures led to a decision to reveal the details of the Israeli raid. The anticipated revelations and the expectation of Syrian embarrassment reinforced Olmert's tendency to explore through Turkey the prospect of renewing the negotiations. Olmert has his own domestic political reasons for flaunting this prospect, but he now had the added reason of seeking to minimize Syria's embarrassment so as not to push its president, Bashar al-Asad, towards another irresponsible adventure.

This turn of events gave rise to the current debate about the pros and cons of such a deal and of a putative U.S.-Syrian rapprochement. To my mind the debate is irrelevant because the prospects of such a deal or deals are quite dim. The Bush administration is focused on the Palestinian track and is hostile to Syria. It is difficult to see how the U.S. and Syrian positions on Lebanon could be reconciled or how Syria's disengagement from Iran could seriously be discussed in the coming months. The issue will be relevant, if at all, for the next U.S. administration in the late winter of 2009.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://ksgfaculty.harvard.edu/Itamar_Rabinovich" rel="nofollow"&gt;Itamar Rabinovich&lt;/a&gt; was Israel's chief negotiator with Syria. He is visiting professor of public policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trilateral relationship among the United States, Israel and Syria was transformed in 2000-2001 from what it had been through most of the 1990s. The first Bush administration in its final months and the Clinton administration collaborated with three Israeli prime ministers in trying to bring about a peace settlement with Syria that would be intimately linked to a dramatic improvement of U.S.-Syrian relations. This effort collapsed in 2000. By 2001 Hafez al-Asad was dead, Bill Clinton ended his term and Ehud Barak was defeated by Ariel Sharon. George W. Bush was not interested in the Arab-Israeli peace process, certainly not in the Syrian track; Sharon was determined to focus on the Palestinian issue and was opposed to withdrawal from the Golan.</p>
<p>The Bush administration&#8217;s relationship with Syria deteriorated during the next few years. Syria had been an ally of Iran, a sponsor of terrorist organizations and a collector of WMD. This original list of U.S. grievances was significantly lengthened by two other issues: Syria&#8217;s important aid to the Sunni insurrection in Iraq and its efforts to stifle Lebanese independence and democracy, cherished by President Bush himself. Since the Bush administration decided not to engage Syria on one hand and not to attack it on the other, its policy of punishing and isolating Syria has remained largely ineffective.</p>
<p>When Ehud Olmert, Sharon&#8217;s successor, began to talk about resuming negotiations with Syria, he was told by the Bush administration that this was not a good idea. Recently, talk of such resumption has been given more play. Oddly it was prompted by Washington&#8217;s decision to expose details of Israel&#8217;s destruction on September 7, 2007 of a nuclear reactor being built in northern Syria by North Korea. At the time, both the United and Israel chose to play down this major event. In the past few weeks a confluence of Congressional and intra-administration pressures led to a decision to reveal the details of the Israeli raid. The anticipated revelations and the expectation of Syrian embarrassment reinforced Olmert&#8217;s tendency to explore through Turkey the prospect of renewing the negotiations. Olmert has his own domestic political reasons for flaunting this prospect, but he now had the added reason of seeking to minimize Syria&#8217;s embarrassment so as not to push its president, Bashar al-Asad, towards another irresponsible adventure.</p>
<p>This turn of events gave rise to the current debate about the pros and cons of such a deal and of a putative U.S.-Syrian rapprochement. To my mind the debate is irrelevant because the prospects of such a deal or deals are quite dim. The Bush administration is focused on the Palestinian track and is hostile to Syria. It is difficult to see how the U.S. and Syrian positions on Lebanon could be reconciled or how Syria&#8217;s disengagement from Iran could seriously be discussed in the coming months. The issue will be relevant, if at all, for the next U.S. administration in the late winter of 2009.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://ksgfaculty.harvard.edu/Itamar_Rabinovich" rel="nofollow">Itamar Rabinovich</a> was Israel&#8217;s chief negotiator with Syria. He is visiting professor of public policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on Jordanian option by Shmuel Bar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/#comment-484</link>
		<author>Shmuel Bar</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/#comment-484</guid>
		<description>Giora Eiland's &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/" rel="nofollow"&gt;points&lt;/a&gt; are valid. No serious observer of Palestinian politics would dispute the assertion that for the foreseeable future, an independent Palestinian state—even if it were granted on a silver platter—would most likely be a failed state. The energy necessary to reverse the "political entropy" that has characterized the Palestinian society for years cannot come from inside that society.  

At the same time, no external actor is willing to invest what is needed to create a stable Palestine—first and foremost, military force—to disarm the plethora of armed gangs who now rule the streets of the West Bank and Gaza. The only military force in the region that could conceivably tame the West Bank—at a very high price—is Israel, and Israel will not do so. The proposals for an international force are even less practical, as no international force will be able to embark on the kind of "surge" needed to pacify Palestinian society. Therefore, in the absence of a "Palestinian option" and in light of the fact that the current situation seems untenable in the long haul, the "Jordanian option" has been mooted again.  

But as Asher Susser rightly &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/#comment-461" rel="nofollow"&gt;argues&lt;/a&gt;, the absence of a Palestinian option alone is not enough to convince the Jordanians that it is time to take on responsibility for the West Bank. A major part of the Jordanian political body eschews any idea of a return to the West Bank for fear of losing both banks to a Palestinian majority. I do not subscribe to argument that "Jordan is the Palestinian state" (despite the large percentage of Jordanians of Palestinian descent in the East Bank); the Jordanian regime has succeeded admirably in creating a common denominator and relative stability. However, any attempt to swallow the Palestinians of the West Bank would most probably undermine these achievements. Moreover, even if an agreement were reached to bring Jordan into the West Bank, the ability of the Jordanian army to impose law and order in a theatre from which it has been absent for forty years is highly in question.  

All this said, Jordan and Israel—and Egypt as well—have a common interest in cordoning off the West Bank and Gaza from "spilling over" into their own "Palestinian" communities. Israel is capable of doing so by erecting the security fence and restricting contact between the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs. Jordan, however, would find it difficult to cut off all social and economic ties with a West Bank which is cut off from Israel, and by so doing be accused of participating in an Israeli "siege" of the Palestinians. Thus, the more successful Israel is in cutting itself off from the Palestinians, the greater the danger for Jordan of spill-over into the East Bank. Only in this scenario might the Jordanian leadership conclude that the kingdom would face even graver threats to its well-being if it refrained from involvement in the West Bank.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.herzliyaconference.org/Eng/_Articles/Article.asp?ArticleID=149&#38;CategoryID=74" rel="nofollow"&gt;Shmuel Bar&lt;/a&gt; is director of studies at the Institute for Policy and Strategy, IDC, Herzliya, Israel.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giora Eiland&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/" rel="nofollow">points</a> are valid. No serious observer of Palestinian politics would dispute the assertion that for the foreseeable future, an independent Palestinian state—even if it were granted on a silver platter—would most likely be a failed state. The energy necessary to reverse the &#8220;political entropy&#8221; that has characterized the Palestinian society for years cannot come from inside that society.  </p>
<p>At the same time, no external actor is willing to invest what is needed to create a stable Palestine—first and foremost, military force—to disarm the plethora of armed gangs who now rule the streets of the West Bank and Gaza. The only military force in the region that could conceivably tame the West Bank—at a very high price—is Israel, and Israel will not do so. The proposals for an international force are even less practical, as no international force will be able to embark on the kind of &#8220;surge&#8221; needed to pacify Palestinian society. Therefore, in the absence of a &#8220;Palestinian option&#8221; and in light of the fact that the current situation seems untenable in the long haul, the &#8220;Jordanian option&#8221; has been mooted again.  </p>
<p>But as Asher Susser rightly <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/jordanian_option/#comment-461" rel="nofollow">argues</a>, the absence of a Palestinian option alone is not enough to convince the Jordanians that it is time to take on responsibility for the West Bank. A major part of the Jordanian political body eschews any idea of a return to the West Bank for fear of losing both banks to a Palestinian majority. I do not subscribe to argument that &#8220;Jordan is the Palestinian state&#8221; (despite the large percentage of Jordanians of Palestinian descent in the East Bank); the Jordanian regime has succeeded admirably in creating a common denominator and relative stability. However, any attempt to swallow the Palestinians of the West Bank would most probably undermine these achievements. Moreover, even if an agreement were reached to bring Jordan into the West Bank, the ability of the Jordanian army to impose law and order in a theatre from which it has been absent for forty years is highly in question.  </p>
<p>All this said, Jordan and Israel—and Egypt as well—have a common interest in cordoning off the West Bank and Gaza from &#8220;spilling over&#8221; into their own &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; communities. Israel is capable of doing so by erecting the security fence and restricting contact between the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs. Jordan, however, would find it difficult to cut off all social and economic ties with a West Bank which is cut off from Israel, and by so doing be accused of participating in an Israeli &#8220;siege&#8221; of the Palestinians. Thus, the more successful Israel is in cutting itself off from the Palestinians, the greater the danger for Jordan of spill-over into the East Bank. Only in this scenario might the Jordanian leadership conclude that the kingdom would face even graver threats to its well-being if it refrained from involvement in the West Bank.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://www.herzliyaconference.org/Eng/_Articles/Article.asp?ArticleID=149&amp;CategoryID=74" rel="nofollow">Shmuel Bar</a> is director of studies at the Institute for Policy and Strategy, IDC, Herzliya, Israel.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on U.S.-Syria: Who&#8217;s converting whom? by Eyal Zisser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-477</link>
		<author>Eyal Zisser</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-477</guid>
		<description>For nearly all of six decades, the United States and Syria have had an impossible relationship, marked by total U.S. failure. Despite all efforts, the United States has failed to turn Syria into its ally, or even persuade Syria to respect U.S. regional interests.

The problem would seem to be not only Syria's behavior, but the very nature of the regime, especially that of the Asad dynasty. It is useful to consider Syria as another Cuba or North Korea, with which it bears many similarities. All three countries are ruled by dictatorial family dynasties cloaked in anti-Western ideologies that legitimate them and ensure their survival. For this reason, Bashar Asad is unlikely to be "bought" by the West. 

It would be a mistake to compare Bashar even to Anwar Sadat. Unlike Sadat, Bashar sends out feelers to United State and Israel, not as part of an effort to bring about a fundamental change in his country's domestic situation, but in order to preserve things just as they are. It is more apt to compare him to Gamal Abdel Nasser, who in the 1950s sought to maneuver between the two big blocs, until Washington finally pushed him into the arms of the Soviet Union. 

What Bashar is proposing to the United States is an honorable capitulation: that it depart from Iraq, abandon Lebanon, pressure Israel to return the entire Golan Heights, and acquiesce in Syria's continued membership in the region's Iran-centered "axis of evil" (with no more than a vague Syrian hint of a possible future withdrawal from that axis). In return for all this, Syria offers to restore the arms-length relationship it had with the United States in the 1990s. Washington tolerated that sort of Syrian maneuvering in the days of George Bush senior and Bill Clinton, but it became altogether unacceptable to the present Bush administration after 9/11.

Syria is paying a price for Bashar's defiance of the United States and his alignment with Iran and North Korea. Syria remains weak and backward, and its economic situation is getting worse. The country is depleted of its oil reserves and impacted negatively by the global economic downturn. But domestically, on the Syrian street, Bashar's policies appear to enjoy wide popularity. America's sinking into the Iraqi morass and Israel's failure to subdue Hezbollah in the Lebanese war weakened Syria's two main rivals and strengthened Bashar, who suddenly looked like a winning gambler. In a troubled region, Syria gives the impression of a model of political stability. Its social and economic problems are not yet acute, and there is no real domestic threat to the regime's stability.

So the question of what to do about Syria remains unresolved. There is very little Washington can do to compel a change in Syrian behavior if it is not interested in another Iraq-type adventure (i.e., regime change by means of military occupation), or not ready to use real force against Syria—for instance, by imposing a blockade on export of Syrian oil. Absent such measures, U.S. policy consists of ineffective rhetoric and insignificant economic sanctions. 

In that light, perhaps those who call upon the United States to change its policy have a point. If Washington isn't prepared to beat Damascus, its only other option, aside from the status quo, is to think about joining it. A properly conceived Syrian-Israeli peace process could serve Israeli and U.S. interests. A different Syria also could play a stabilizing role in Lebanon. If Syria somehow ended up aligned with the &lt;i&gt;pax Americana,&lt;/i&gt; it could work keep Hezbollah from assuming power there (which might otherwise happen in 15-20 years). 

But a Syrian-American dialogue should be realistic. It cannot be based on the illusion that Syria might become another Egypt, or even another Libya. At best, it might be another North Korea—a country with which the United States could reach limited understandings after long and exacting negotiations, crafted carefully and realistically.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tau.ac.il/dayancenter/research.htm#EYAL" rel="nofollow"&gt;Eyal Zisser&lt;/a&gt; is director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For nearly all of six decades, the United States and Syria have had an impossible relationship, marked by total U.S. failure. Despite all efforts, the United States has failed to turn Syria into its ally, or even persuade Syria to respect U.S. regional interests.</p>
<p>The problem would seem to be not only Syria&#8217;s behavior, but the very nature of the regime, especially that of the Asad dynasty. It is useful to consider Syria as another Cuba or North Korea, with which it bears many similarities. All three countries are ruled by dictatorial family dynasties cloaked in anti-Western ideologies that legitimate them and ensure their survival. For this reason, Bashar Asad is unlikely to be &#8220;bought&#8221; by the West. </p>
<p>It would be a mistake to compare Bashar even to Anwar Sadat. Unlike Sadat, Bashar sends out feelers to United State and Israel, not as part of an effort to bring about a fundamental change in his country&#8217;s domestic situation, but in order to preserve things just as they are. It is more apt to compare him to Gamal Abdel Nasser, who in the 1950s sought to maneuver between the two big blocs, until Washington finally pushed him into the arms of the Soviet Union. </p>
<p>What Bashar is proposing to the United States is an honorable capitulation: that it depart from Iraq, abandon Lebanon, pressure Israel to return the entire Golan Heights, and acquiesce in Syria&#8217;s continued membership in the region&#8217;s Iran-centered &#8220;axis of evil&#8221; (with no more than a vague Syrian hint of a possible future withdrawal from that axis). In return for all this, Syria offers to restore the arms-length relationship it had with the United States in the 1990s. Washington tolerated that sort of Syrian maneuvering in the days of George Bush senior and Bill Clinton, but it became altogether unacceptable to the present Bush administration after 9/11.</p>
<p>Syria is paying a price for Bashar&#8217;s defiance of the United States and his alignment with Iran and North Korea. Syria remains weak and backward, and its economic situation is getting worse. The country is depleted of its oil reserves and impacted negatively by the global economic downturn. But domestically, on the Syrian street, Bashar&#8217;s policies appear to enjoy wide popularity. America&#8217;s sinking into the Iraqi morass and Israel&#8217;s failure to subdue Hezbollah in the Lebanese war weakened Syria&#8217;s two main rivals and strengthened Bashar, who suddenly looked like a winning gambler. In a troubled region, Syria gives the impression of a model of political stability. Its social and economic problems are not yet acute, and there is no real domestic threat to the regime&#8217;s stability.</p>
<p>So the question of what to do about Syria remains unresolved. There is very little Washington can do to compel a change in Syrian behavior if it is not interested in another Iraq-type adventure (i.e., regime change by means of military occupation), or not ready to use real force against Syria—for instance, by imposing a blockade on export of Syrian oil. Absent such measures, U.S. policy consists of ineffective rhetoric and insignificant economic sanctions. </p>
<p>In that light, perhaps those who call upon the United States to change its policy have a point. If Washington isn&#8217;t prepared to beat Damascus, its only other option, aside from the status quo, is to think about joining it. A properly conceived Syrian-Israeli peace process could serve Israeli and U.S. interests. A different Syria also could play a stabilizing role in Lebanon. If Syria somehow ended up aligned with the <i>pax Americana,</i> it could work keep Hezbollah from assuming power there (which might otherwise happen in 15-20 years). </p>
<p>But a Syrian-American dialogue should be realistic. It cannot be based on the illusion that Syria might become another Egypt, or even another Libya. At best, it might be another North Korea—a country with which the United States could reach limited understandings after long and exacting negotiations, crafted carefully and realistically.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://www.tau.ac.il/dayancenter/research.htm#EYAL" rel="nofollow">Eyal Zisser</a> is director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on U.S.-Syria: Who&#8217;s converting whom? by Michael Young</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-473</link>
		<author>Michael Young</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-473</guid>
		<description>I fully agree with &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Peter Rodman&lt;/a&gt;, and must disagree with my friend &lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-472" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jon Alterman&lt;/a&gt;. I find paradoxical, even contradictory, the line of argument that he has put forward. It goes something like this: It is not in the U.S. interest to isolate Syria for an extended period of time. But the way out of this dilemma is to convince the Syrians that it's not in their interest to remain isolated from the U.S. I'm simplifying, but that's roughly it.

Of course, Syria sees things quite differently. They know very well that they're isolated; and they know very well that they're losing their cards. That's precisely why they will not do what Jon suggests, and surrender their remaining cards just so they can be viewed as less of a trouble-maker in Washington. The Syrians are well-versed in the ways of power, as Jon correctly points out. They do respond to sticks. And while he asserts that the effectiveness of U.S. sticks is diminishing, at this stage the sticks are not only American; they are also Arab, European, and international, through myriad United Nations resolutions on Lebanon.

But are U.S. sticks really diminishing? I'm not so sure. I don't believe, for example, that Bashar Asad would have so vocally supported a peace deal with Israel had he not been seeking to use negotiations toward that end as a way of gaining entry back into Washington, for the reasons Peter Rodman outlines. Asad's statements are causing useful anxiety among Syria's Middle Eastern allies—whether Iran or Hezbollah—who wonder whether they can really trust Damascus, particularly after the killing of Imad Mughniyeh. Is it not in U.S. interests to create tension in that relationship, and to do so by forcing Syria to make the mistakes?

I also find that Peter put his finger on a fundamentally new reality, very different than what we've seen in the past: Syria's isolation within the Arab world, particularly its very poor relations with Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The intensity of that hostility has to be understood outside the context of traditional Middle Eastern politics. The reason the Saudis and Egyptians are so worried about Syria is that Syria is perceived as an Iranian wedge in the Levant. The reason both are so adamantly opposed to Syria in Lebanon is that they feel that a Syrian return there would pose an existential threat to them by extending Iranian influence from Tehran to the Mediterranean. It would also enhance the power, and more broadly the appeal of the revolutionary "model," of Iran's militant Islamist allies, serving as an example to their domestic Islamist opposition movements.

Is it really in the U.S. interest to engage Syria in this context, when its major Arab allies are in the midst of a conflict with Iran they view as vital? In fact, I'm not at all convinced that asking Arab states to change Syrian behavior through "more robust interactions and investments in the country" would work. The Arabs have repeatedly tried to change Syrian behavior through more congenial means, most prominently at the Arab League summit in Riyadh last year. The Syrians have ignored this. Why? Because they know the price for their return to the Arab fold would be to give up on a return to Lebanon. They're not about to do that, because only such a return, one that is total, with soldiers, would give Syria the regional relevance it lost in 2005, when it was forced out of Lebanon.

It would also allow Syria, from Beirut, to undermine the Hariri tribunal, which threatens the future of the Syrian regime and which will probably begin operating next year. In this, Syria has the full support of Hezbollah, which realizes that without a Syrian comeback, the party will continue to face a majority in Lebanon that wants the party to disarm. I find it revealing that Jon failed to mention Lebanon once in his post. That's because advocates of engaging Syria realize that the only way you can bring about an advantageous dialogue with Damascus is to give it something worthwhile. That something can only be Lebanon, the minimal price Syria would demand to offer positive concessions in return.

More broadly, the Syrians also happen to feel that their alliance with Iran allows them to persist in that objective, while also ignoring the entreaties of their Arab brethren. Syria sees Iran as the regional superpower of the future, an impression Asad has little reason to discard when the debate in the United States so foolishly ignores the regional implications of a substantial American drawdown in Iraq. Asad may be right, but his attitude is not the basis on which an enduring U.S.-Syrian relationship can be built.

 We are in a regional struggle for power, and Syria happens to stand at its nexus point. It is a weak link that some persist in wanting to strengthen by advocating U.S. engagement of it. But what are the conditions of such engagement? If it is that Syria must surrender Lebanon, Hamas, and Hezbollah to find its salvation in a better relationship with the United States, then be assured that Asad won't accept such a patently bad deal. He prefers to take his chances with a fight, with Iran on his side. If there are those in the United States willing to give up on Lebanon's independence, however, and by extension allow Syria to further bolster Hezbollah, then fine. But I again fail to see how that would be in the long-term U.S. interest.  

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/michael_young/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michael Young&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/" rel="nofollow">Peter Rodman</a>, and must disagree with my friend <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-472" rel="nofollow">Jon Alterman</a>. I find paradoxical, even contradictory, the line of argument that he has put forward. It goes something like this: It is not in the U.S. interest to isolate Syria for an extended period of time. But the way out of this dilemma is to convince the Syrians that it&#8217;s not in their interest to remain isolated from the U.S. I&#8217;m simplifying, but that&#8217;s roughly it.</p>
<p>Of course, Syria sees things quite differently. They know very well that they&#8217;re isolated; and they know very well that they&#8217;re losing their cards. That&#8217;s precisely why they will not do what Jon suggests, and surrender their remaining cards just so they can be viewed as less of a trouble-maker in Washington. The Syrians are well-versed in the ways of power, as Jon correctly points out. They do respond to sticks. And while he asserts that the effectiveness of U.S. sticks is diminishing, at this stage the sticks are not only American; they are also Arab, European, and international, through myriad United Nations resolutions on Lebanon.</p>
<p>But are U.S. sticks really diminishing? I&#8217;m not so sure. I don&#8217;t believe, for example, that Bashar Asad would have so vocally supported a peace deal with Israel had he not been seeking to use negotiations toward that end as a way of gaining entry back into Washington, for the reasons Peter Rodman outlines. Asad&#8217;s statements are causing useful anxiety among Syria&#8217;s Middle Eastern allies—whether Iran or Hezbollah—who wonder whether they can really trust Damascus, particularly after the killing of Imad Mughniyeh. Is it not in U.S. interests to create tension in that relationship, and to do so by forcing Syria to make the mistakes?</p>
<p>I also find that Peter put his finger on a fundamentally new reality, very different than what we&#8217;ve seen in the past: Syria&#8217;s isolation within the Arab world, particularly its very poor relations with Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The intensity of that hostility has to be understood outside the context of traditional Middle Eastern politics. The reason the Saudis and Egyptians are so worried about Syria is that Syria is perceived as an Iranian wedge in the Levant. The reason both are so adamantly opposed to Syria in Lebanon is that they feel that a Syrian return there would pose an existential threat to them by extending Iranian influence from Tehran to the Mediterranean. It would also enhance the power, and more broadly the appeal of the revolutionary &#8220;model,&#8221; of Iran&#8217;s militant Islamist allies, serving as an example to their domestic Islamist opposition movements.</p>
<p>Is it really in the U.S. interest to engage Syria in this context, when its major Arab allies are in the midst of a conflict with Iran they view as vital? In fact, I&#8217;m not at all convinced that asking Arab states to change Syrian behavior through &#8220;more robust interactions and investments in the country&#8221; would work. The Arabs have repeatedly tried to change Syrian behavior through more congenial means, most prominently at the Arab League summit in Riyadh last year. The Syrians have ignored this. Why? Because they know the price for their return to the Arab fold would be to give up on a return to Lebanon. They&#8217;re not about to do that, because only such a return, one that is total, with soldiers, would give Syria the regional relevance it lost in 2005, when it was forced out of Lebanon.</p>
<p>It would also allow Syria, from Beirut, to undermine the Hariri tribunal, which threatens the future of the Syrian regime and which will probably begin operating next year. In this, Syria has the full support of Hezbollah, which realizes that without a Syrian comeback, the party will continue to face a majority in Lebanon that wants the party to disarm. I find it revealing that Jon failed to mention Lebanon once in his post. That&#8217;s because advocates of engaging Syria realize that the only way you can bring about an advantageous dialogue with Damascus is to give it something worthwhile. That something can only be Lebanon, the minimal price Syria would demand to offer positive concessions in return.</p>
<p>More broadly, the Syrians also happen to feel that their alliance with Iran allows them to persist in that objective, while also ignoring the entreaties of their Arab brethren. Syria sees Iran as the regional superpower of the future, an impression Asad has little reason to discard when the debate in the United States so foolishly ignores the regional implications of a substantial American drawdown in Iraq. Asad may be right, but his attitude is not the basis on which an enduring U.S.-Syrian relationship can be built.</p>
<p> We are in a regional struggle for power, and Syria happens to stand at its nexus point. It is a weak link that some persist in wanting to strengthen by advocating U.S. engagement of it. But what are the conditions of such engagement? If it is that Syria must surrender Lebanon, Hamas, and Hezbollah to find its salvation in a better relationship with the United States, then be assured that Asad won&#8217;t accept such a patently bad deal. He prefers to take his chances with a fight, with Iran on his side. If there are those in the United States willing to give up on Lebanon&#8217;s independence, however, and by extension allow Syria to further bolster Hezbollah, then fine. But I again fail to see how that would be in the long-term U.S. interest.  </p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/michael_young/" rel="nofollow">Michael Young</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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		<title>Comment on U.S.-Syria: Who&#8217;s converting whom? by Jon Alterman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-472</link>
		<author>Jon Alterman</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2008/04/us_syria_whos_converting_whom/#comment-472</guid>
		<description>I agree that Syria has consistently played a spoiler role in the Middle East, and the assurances of its most senior leadership are either disavowed or left in abeyance in the days and weeks after they are made. We don't owe them anything, and we're unlikely to make them into allies any time soon. I completely agree that even enthusiasts for improving the bilateral relationship should expect clearing a pretty low bar here.  

But if we put aside the question of healing the rift in U.S.-Syrian relations and just think about how best to manage an often antagonistic regime, it seems to me that our policy of growing isolation over decades isn't serving our interests. There is increasingly little we can do to harm Syrian interests (I still love the irony that under the Syria Accountability Act we barred Syrian Arab Airlines from flying to the United States, when I am fairly sure they don't even own an aircraft that could make such a journey). Even more practically, we (and the Syrians) have systematically winnowed down the constituencies in both countries that would support better ties, lowering the costs to either side of escalating tensions.  

There is no question that the Syrian government responds to sticks. We saw that in the way they caved on Abdullah Ocalan, their lack of response to the Israeli airstrike in September, and so on. But consistently applying the stick to Syria as we have done has made them somewhat numb, and that makes whatever sticks we pick up less and less effective.  

To my mind, our policy needs to have two components. The first is to persuade the Syrians that the utility of their spoiler role is diminishing. In meetings with Syrian officials at the highest levels last July, I put forward the point that people have forgotten that Syria has any ability to help solve problems, so consistent has their troublemaking been. Americans should push this point time after time, and challenge the Syrians to be constructive.  

The second is to press Arab allies in the cause of changing Syrian behavior, taking advantage of their much more robust interactions and investments in the country. Coordinating our activities with them has a huge multiplier effect; carrying them out alone, it seems to me, means our effect is marginal at best.  None of this is to suggest that our problems with Syria will go away, or that the regime can be "flipped." I don't believe there is much evidence that it can be. But are we better able to manage things from a position of having more interactions or less? I think the indicators are pretty clearly in favor of the former.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/jon_alterman/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jon Alterman&lt;/a&gt; is a member of MESH.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Syria has consistently played a spoiler role in the Middle East, and the assurances of its most senior leadership are either disavowed or left in abeyance in the days and weeks after they are made. We don&#8217;t owe them anything, and we&#8217;re unlikely to make them into allies any time soon. I completely agree that even enthusiasts for improving the bilateral relationship should expect clearing a pretty low bar here.  </p>
<p>But if we put aside the question of healing the rift in U.S.-Syrian relations and just think about how best to manage an often antagonistic regime, it seems to me that our policy of growing isolation over decades isn&#8217;t serving our interests. There is increasingly little we can do to harm Syrian interests (I still love the irony that under the Syria Accountability Act we barred Syrian Arab Airlines from flying to the United States, when I am fairly sure they don&#8217;t even own an aircraft that could make such a journey). Even more practically, we (and the Syrians) have systematically winnowed down the constituencies in both countries that would support better ties, lowering the costs to either side of escalating tensions.  </p>
<p>There is no question that the Syrian government responds to sticks. We saw that in the way they caved on Abdullah Ocalan, their lack of response to the Israeli airstrike in September, and so on. But consistently applying the stick to Syria as we have done has made them somewhat numb, and that makes whatever sticks we pick up less and less effective.  </p>
<p>To my mind, our policy needs to have two components. The first is to persuade the Syrians that the utility of their spoiler role is diminishing. In meetings with Syrian officials at the highest levels last July, I put forward the point that people have forgotten that Syria has any ability to help solve problems, so consistent has their troublemaking been. Americans should push this point time after time, and challenge the Syrians to be constructive.  </p>
<p>The second is to press Arab allies in the cause of changing Syrian behavior, taking advantage of their much more robust interactions and investments in the country. Coordinating our activities with them has a huge multiplier effect; carrying them out alone, it seems to me, means our effect is marginal at best.  None of this is to suggest that our problems with Syria will go away, or that the regime can be &#8220;flipped.&#8221; I don&#8217;t believe there is much evidence that it can be. But are we better able to manage things from a position of having more interactions or less? I think the indicators are pretty clearly in favor of the former.</p>
<p><i><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/members/jon_alterman/" rel="nofollow">Jon Alterman</a> is a member of MESH.</i></p>
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