and then i twittered

and when we came back from the break oppenheim objected. sorry i didn’t get my recorder back on for his words. the recording picks up with palfrey asking for clarification of the publication constraints he is under.

and then i twittered

and when we came back from the break oppenheim objected. sorry i didn’t get my recorder back on for his words. the recording picks up with palfrey asking for clarification of the publication constraints he is under.

Forwarded conversation
Subject: radiohead
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From: Charles Nesson
Date: Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM
To: Isaac Meister , Matthew Sanchez , Anna Volftsun , Debbie Rosenbaum
would each of you please write me an account of our meeting with brian message
my recorder malfunctioned
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From: Anna Volftsun
Date: Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM
To: nesson at law.harvard.edu
Professor Nesson,
I dont remember the exact details, but the gist of it was:
He talked about how the UK is moving towards an alternate model of music distribution (from BPI, which is their version of the RIAA). This model does not involve record labels at all and encourages, or at least allows, file-sharing. He mentioned working with an artists organization of about 200 groups. The UK is currently soliciting reactions and opinions on its proposal to amend the copyright laws. The matter was put to a vote in the artists organization and they almost unanimously voted to allow file-sharing rather than have it be penalized by copyright law.
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To: Cary Sherman
hi cary,
thanks for your note. i don’t really understand why you are continuing the litigation, but if that’s your position then i ask you to agree to our motion, just filed, to admit internet to the courtroom, and then to join with me in making the trial the best possible example of civil discourse within the rules of federal civil procedure.
happy holidaze
best to you and family from me and fern
From: Cary Sherman
Date: Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Subject: FW: AP: Music industry drops effort to sue song swappers
To: Charles Nesson
Hi Charlie.
Saw your comments in the AP story below. I hope you understand that we can’t just walk away from cases we’ve filed. Doesn’t mean we want to litigate everything, we’d obviously prefer not to. If you have any thoughts on a resolution, I’d be all ears.
Sorry I couldn’t tell you months ago that we were getting out of the lawsuits, but I’m sure you understand.
I hope you have a great holiday (and don’t have to spend the holidays working, now that you’re a litigator!).
Please give my best to Fern.
Cary
Music industry drops effort to sue song swappers
By RYAN NAKASHIMA – 27 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The group representing the U.S. recording industry said Friday it has abandoned its policy of suing people for sharing songs protected by copyright and will work with Internet service providers to cut abusers’ access if they ignore repeated warnings.
The move ends a controversial program that saw the Recording Industry Association of America sue about 35,000 people since 2003 for swapping songs online. Because of high legal costs for defenders, virtually all of those hit with lawsuits settled, on average for around $3,500. The association’s legal costs, in the meantime, exceeded the settlement money it brought in.
The association said Friday that it stopped sending out new lawsuits and warnings in August, and then agreed with several leading U.S. Internet service providers, without naming which ones, to notify alleged illegal file-sharers and cut off service if they failed to stop.
It credited the lawsuit campaign with raising awareness of piracy and keeping the number of illegal file-sharers in check while the legal market for digital music took off. With two weeks left in the year, legitimate sales of digital music tracks soared for the first time past the 1 billion mark, up 28 percent over all of last year, according to Nielsen Soundscan.
“We’re at a point where there’s a sense of comfort that we can replace one form of deterrent with another form of deterrent,” said RIAA Chairman and Chief Executive Mitch Bainwol. “Filing lawsuits as a strategy to deal with a big problem was not our first choice five years ago.”
The new notification program is also more efficient, he said, having sent out more notices in the few months since it started than in the five years of the lawsuit campaign.
“It’s much easier to send notices than it is to file lawsuits,” Bainwol said.
The decision to scrap the legal attack was first reported in The Wall Street Journal.
The group says it will still continue to litigate outstanding cases, most of which are in the pre-lawsuit warning stage, but some of which are before the courts.
The decision to press on with existing cases drew the ire of Harvard Law professor Charles Nesson, who is defending a Boston University graduate student targeted in one of the music industry’s lawsuits.
“If it’s a bad idea, it’s a bad idea,” said Nesson. He is challenging the constitutionality of the suits, which, based on the Digital Theft Deterrence and Copyright Damages Improvement Act of 1999, can impose damages of $150,000 per infringement, far in excess of the actual damage caused.
Nesson’s client, Joel Tenenbaum, faces the possibility of more than $1 million in damages for allegedly downloading seven songs illegally, which Nesson called “cruel and unusual punishment.” The case is set to go to trial in district court in Massachusetts on Jan. 22.
Brian Toder, a lawyer with Chestnut & Cambronne in Minneapolis, who defended single mother Jammie Thomas in a copyright suit filed by the RIAA, said he is also set to retry the case March 9 after a judge threw out a $222,000 decision against her.
“I think it’s a good thing that they’ve ended this campaign of going after people,” Toder said.
“But they need to change how people spend money on records,” he said. “People like to share music. The Internet makes it so easy. They have to do something to change this business model of theirs.”
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when appropriate (in my judgment) to an open project and not sensitive (in my judgment) in terms of privacy, i may post email to my blog. all privacy requests respected.
From: Joel Tenenbaum
Date: Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:52 AM
Subject: [cyberone-riaa] [Fwd: riaa]
Interesting…
“Indeed, many in the music industry felt the lawsuits had outlived their
usefulness.”
so early investors take $50 billion from late investors, minus madoff’s company costs, philanthropy and what he took out for himself
the early investors in ponzi schemes give them their credibility
others are then let in on their profits and their cache
jamaica has been similarly hit, with ponzi schemes styled for both rich and poor, olints and cash plus
poor people put their savings in because they have no other way to make money
same with rich people, sort of
Power plays by the rules only when it suits its purpose
Now the court in Oregon is realizing it has some
Including the power to put their reality back in the face of authority
Power we think comes from on top
Power comes from within
Here’s an article in the new york times about Breyer listening and hearing what the Oregon judges are saying, speaking in their lawyer’s language about instructions to the jury, and Souter asking core questions.
Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Oregon
gotta love it
adam liptak
and then Roberts batting clean-up
where’s he from
home run
“Is there a way for us to ensure against a bad-faith response to our decision?”
Justice Souter asked. Chief Justice Roberts had an answer. Get to the issue at the core so that our decision earns respect. The Supreme Court has no troops to enforce its judgments on lower courts. Supreme Court authority is respect for law, which starts with judges understanding the true source of their power.
where is a transcript of this magnificent exchange
where is the audio/video
why do i not have this to teach to my class
today’s a busy day
here’s from matt:
Charlie,
I have class from 10am-12:45pm. Other than that I am available.
As a rough note to get things started, here is a (probably non-exhaustive) list of things we need to produce/discuss:
1. Request for leave to file reply to plaintiffs’ opposition to our amended counterclaim (ASAP!)
2. Request for leave to file reply to plaintiffs’ opposition to our motion to add RIAA (ASAP!)
3. Request for leave to file reply to plaintiffs’ opposition to our discovery plan (if we chose to do so, and if that is even possible… ASAP!)
4. Produce all three of those documents
5. Figure out what to do if we want to appeal the order against Tova to the 3rd Circuit (if we choose to do so)
6. Figure out how to comply with plaintiffs’ proposed discovery plan, because I think Judge Gertner probably will either adopt their plan or a modified version (provided we don’t/cant reply)
7. Figure out how to prepare all of the discovery stuff we’ll need to do soon anyway (esp. preparing expert reports on our experts)
8. How we’re going to handle the hearing in RI, including whether we’re going to request electronic recording
9. Finalize plans for our motion to allow electronic recording of the D.Mass proceedings
10. Decide how to distribute/coordinate all of this stuff with finals/Xmas break looming
~Matt
from shubham
-For the reply brief on the amended counterclaim (item 1 above):
A. Argue that the court does in fact have inherent federal authority to allow redress for abuse of process.
B. Argue that our state law abuse of process pleadings are sufficient to continue to trial
C. Argue that the first amendment cannot justify their litigation campaign
D. Unconstitutional delegation argument
E. Civil v. Criminal argument
F. Unconstitutional excessive damages argument
from doc searls
Another example of RIAA heartlessness:
legal_blog_watch/2008/12/callous-lawsuit-of-the-day.html
Cheers,
Doc
it is of necessity we doubt ourselves
our sense of self but an inference
how well we wrestle with doubt about ourselves
a measure of our courage and understanding
Now is a critical moment for defining and reinforcing the best features of our communications platforms. What do we value about the internet?
i value the ability to go anywhere, get anything free, some things for a fee. that makes sense to the kid who has no money and no norm not to click, and makes sense to me
and what should be the focus of the next administration?
open access on the process side
open education on the substance
blown to bits an example of a harvard course about the net that should be open on the net to all who want to learn about it
ws211390more of same
mccain
sitting with position on obama
waits for obama to make his play
biden
not hillary
what does that say
biden
what does that say
to whom is he speaking
mccain sees a tell and makes his play
palin
smilingly explaining that obama’s move made his
black man could have had strong woman on his side
instead chose white man
all-in with palin
straight talk express back on the rails
mccain the maverick fighter
strong woman at his side
choo choo who do you choose
obama seen and raised
action now to him
shall he attack this new palin paladin of womanhood
i think knot
shall he ignore her hoping her charisma will somehow fade
i think knot
shall he expect his white man somehow to defeat
i think knot
is obama capable of embracing sarah palin in all she stands for women
how would he go about it to take strength of mccain’s play away
how to raise with an even more stunning play
draft lessig
to be chairman of the fcc
put the net in the hands of people who love it
Forwarded conversation
Subject: obama platform
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From: Charles Nesson
Date: Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 9:44 AM
To: Lawrence Lessig
on monday night (july 28) i am hosting a Listen to America platform meeting on Internet Democracy and Education.
where better to start than with your thought. what would you say is platform number one?
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From: Lawrence Lessig
Date: Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 6:13 PM
To: Charles Nesson
trust.
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From: Charles Nesson
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 8:40 AM
To: Lawrence Lessig
you put a . after trust
trust what
trust whom
trust why
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From: Lawrence Lessig
Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:50 PM
To: Charles Nesson
trust in the very idea of government. that differences might be differences of good faith. that agreement might be won for the right reason.