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	<title>Comments on: Should high school students design and build bicycles?</title>
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		<title>By: Tony Pryor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Pryor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2003 01:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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Curriculum design seems to be one of the major challenges. It&#039;s a strong idea- incorporating many disciplines in the way that, for example, creating a computer game does. In either case, who teaches this at the university level?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;q=bicycle+science</description>
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<p>Curriculum design seems to be one of the major challenges. It&#8217;s a strong idea- incorporating many disciplines in the way that, for example, creating a computer game does. In either case, who teaches this at the university level?</p>
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		<title>By: James K. Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James K. Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2003 07:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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100kg? 100kg? Did anybody notice he said 100 kg?</description>
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<p>100kg? 100kg? Did anybody notice he said 100 kg?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Rohatensky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Rohatensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 17:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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I think the the first year of a CS degree should be to design and build a bridge across a bottomless gorge and then have the students walk their own construction. I would imagine the students that graduated such a program would be less likely to suggest multi-tier clusters of trendy products as enterprise solutions, and just solve the problem. (probably with Lisp or Perl)

I guess having the engineering inept fall to their deaths instead of nursing them though their degree is a little extreme. Possibly another discipline/faculty would set up some safety nets, or maybe McDonald&#039;s or Burger King would just catch them before they hit the ground.</description>
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<p>I think the the first year of a CS degree should be to design and build a bridge across a bottomless gorge and then have the students walk their own construction. I would imagine the students that graduated such a program would be less likely to suggest multi-tier clusters of trendy products as enterprise solutions, and just solve the problem. (probably with Lisp or Perl)</p>
<p>I guess having the engineering inept fall to their deaths instead of nursing them though their degree is a little extreme. Possibly another discipline/faculty would set up some safety nets, or maybe McDonald&#8217;s or Burger King would just catch them before they hit the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Krubner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Krubner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2003 19:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Project- oriented teaching is proven effective, but seems to be difficult from an adminstrative point of view. As with so many good ideas, the stumbling block is managerial.</description>
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<p>Project- oriented teaching is proven effective, but seems to be difficult from an adminstrative point of view. As with so many good ideas, the stumbling block is managerial.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Rink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Rink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2003 22:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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From the High School teachers I have met, none of them could teach any part of that project.  They wouldn&#039;t understand it.  Its about time we got Physicists to teach Physics, Mathmaticians to teach Math, and Engineers to teach Engineering.

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<p>From the High School teachers I have met, none of them could teach any part of that project.  They wouldn&#8217;t understand it.  Its about time we got Physicists to teach Physics, Mathmaticians to teach Math, and Engineers to teach Engineering.</p>
<p>Dana</p>
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		<title>By: ojsbuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ojsbuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2003 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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PSssshhhh...&#039;buzzard suit&#039;</description>
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<p>PSssshhhh&#8230;&#8217;buzzard suit&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2003 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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I like the idea.  In general I am in favor of ways of integrated coursework and work/study from high school through college. Another approach would be to build several different things as individuals and teams over four year.</description>
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<p>I like the idea.  In general I am in favor of ways of integrated coursework and work/study from high school through college. Another approach would be to build several different things as individuals and teams over four year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chung-chieh Shan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chung-chieh Shan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2003 18:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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The build (but not design) part of your comment is being taken care of by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bikesnotbombs.org/&quot;&gt;Bikes not Bombs&lt;/a&gt; (Jamaica Plain, MA), which as you might expect can really use some donations right now.</description>
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<p>The build (but not design) part of your comment is being taken care of by <a href="http://www.bikesnotbombs.org/">Bikes not Bombs</a> (Jamaica Plain, MA), which as you might expect can really use some donations right now.</p>
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		<title>By: r</title>
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		<dc:creator>r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2003 04:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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building a bike sounds like fun but  would take about 1 year to go  from no knowledge of anything to a complete bike, not four. at the crappy public high school i went to, the shop class guys actually did learn a lot of cool shit, like how to design model airplanes , machine parts to hot-rod out their cars, etc. 

I am a mathematician at heart and an engineer by trade, thus I would also like to believe that it is important for people to learn math and science. Most people i know who suck at calculus are actually doing quite well, usually much better than I am. Once they get to the proper age, my daughters will be allowed to do their calculus homework only after they have put in their five hours a day on the tennis court. One venus william&#039;s worth of endorsements in the family is all I need.</description>
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<p>building a bike sounds like fun but  would take about 1 year to go  from no knowledge of anything to a complete bike, not four. at the crappy public high school i went to, the shop class guys actually did learn a lot of cool shit, like how to design model airplanes , machine parts to hot-rod out their cars, etc. </p>
<p>I am a mathematician at heart and an engineer by trade, thus I would also like to believe that it is important for people to learn math and science. Most people i know who suck at calculus are actually doing quite well, usually much better than I am. Once they get to the proper age, my daughters will be allowed to do their calculus homework only after they have put in their five hours a day on the tennis court. One venus william&#8217;s worth of endorsements in the family is all I need.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Chernavsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Chernavsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2003 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Not a bad idea, but the kids would probably be more motivated if the project involved making a complex bong, or maybe some kind of very advanced sex toy.</description>
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<p>Not a bad idea, but the kids would probably be more motivated if the project involved making a complex bong, or maybe some kind of very advanced sex toy.</p>
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