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		<title>By: ojsbuddy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/08/ancient-egyptian-mp3ers/comment-page-1/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>ojsbuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt; Upon entering the city, their books were confiscated and taken to the scribes .&lt;/i&gt;

Then , Leonardo Di Vinci introduced the &#039; royalty &#039; system .</description>
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<p><i> Upon entering the city, their books were confiscated and taken to the scribes .</i></p>
<p>Then , Leonardo Di Vinci introduced the &#8216; royalty &#8216; system .</p>
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		<title>By: jann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/08/ancient-egyptian-mp3ers/comment-page-1/#comment-4976</link>
		<dc:creator>jann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Also, Caliph Omar or Umar was extremely famous in Islamic history as the 2nd caliph and the conqueror of Jerusalem, one of the holy cities.  (Especially celebrated by the Sunni, considering that the Shia did not acknowledge his legitimacy.)  Islamic rules on how to treat Christians and Jews were pseudepigraphically attributed to him, via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pact-umar.html&quot;&gt;this document&lt;/a&gt;, The Pact of Umar, believed by many scholars to have been written at least two centuries later.

I know nothing about this library story, but the dates and people fit the ballpark pretty closely.</description>
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<p>Also, Caliph Omar or Umar was extremely famous in Islamic history as the 2nd caliph and the conqueror of Jerusalem, one of the holy cities.  (Especially celebrated by the Sunni, considering that the Shia did not acknowledge his legitimacy.)  Islamic rules on how to treat Christians and Jews were pseudepigraphically attributed to him, via <a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/pact-umar.html">this document</a>, The Pact of Umar, believed by many scholars to have been written at least two centuries later.</p>
<p>I know nothing about this library story, but the dates and people fit the ballpark pretty closely.</p>
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		<title>By: jann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/08/ancient-egyptian-mp3ers/comment-page-1/#comment-4975</link>
		<dc:creator>jann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Hasan, the generally accepted date for the flight is 622 CE.  More chronology &lt;a href=&quot;http://eawc.evansville.edu/chronology/ispage.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  The spread of Islam was pretty fast.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/chronology/century7.html&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is another page that puts the conquest of Egypt at 642 CE.</description>
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<p>Hasan, the generally accepted date for the flight is 622 CE.  More chronology <a href="http://eawc.evansville.edu/chronology/ispage.htm">here</a>.  The spread of Islam was pretty fast.  <a href="http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/history/chronology/century7.html">Here</a> is another page that puts the conquest of Egypt at 642 CE.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasan Diwan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/08/ancient-egyptian-mp3ers/comment-page-1/#comment-4974</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasan Diwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Seeing as Muhammad&#039;s flight to Medina was in 712, the dates are impossible. The title caliph was adopted by Muhammad&#039;s successors, so Omar could not have used it.</description>
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<p>Seeing as Muhammad&#8217;s flight to Medina was in 712, the dates are impossible. The title caliph was adopted by Muhammad&#8217;s successors, so Omar could not have used it.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Greenspun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Greenspun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Kamau: According to Singh it was Pythagoras who came up with the idea of proof.  People before him knew how to calculate a lot of stuff (and &quot;geometry&quot; literally means &quot;measuring the Earth&quot;) but weren&#039;t interested in proving theorems.  So that would make modern mathematics a Greek invention.

As for science, the scientific method wasn&#039;t in widespread use until the Enlightenment, i.e., the late 16th century.  Francis Bacon gets credit for being the first to articulate the idea so perhaps we should think of modern science as an English invention.</description>
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<p>Kamau: According to Singh it was Pythagoras who came up with the idea of proof.  People before him knew how to calculate a lot of stuff (and &#8220;geometry&#8221; literally means &#8220;measuring the Earth&#8221;) but weren&#8217;t interested in proving theorems.  So that would make modern mathematics a Greek invention.</p>
<p>As for science, the scientific method wasn&#8217;t in widespread use until the Enlightenment, i.e., the late 16th century.  Francis Bacon gets credit for being the first to articulate the idea so perhaps we should think of modern science as an English invention.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Luscus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Luscus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Statemments that include &quot;everybody knows&quot; are immediately suspect.</description>
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<p>Statemments that include &#8220;everybody knows&#8221; are immediately suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamau Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamau Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;...and Greek mathematics went up in smoke.&quot;

Why Greek mathematics? Alexandria is in Egypt (Norhtern Africa)and everybody knows that the basis of mathematics and science was developed (discovered) in Egypt. The Greeks were students to the Egyptians for many centuries.</description>
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<p>&#8220;&#8230;and Greek mathematics went up in smoke.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why Greek mathematics? Alexandria is in Egypt (Norhtern Africa)and everybody knows that the basis of mathematics and science was developed (discovered) in Egypt. The Greeks were students to the Egyptians for many centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Reagle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/08/ancient-egyptian-mp3ers/comment-page-1/#comment-4955</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Reagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

As I noted in my entry:
  http://goatee.net/2003/05.html#_11su
The destruction via Omar is best considered &quot;an allegation&quot;:
  http://www.ehistory.com/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9</description>
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<p>As I noted in my entry:<br />
  <a href="http://goatee.net/2003/05.html#_11su" rel="nofollow">http://goatee.net/2003/05.html#_11su</a><br />
The destruction via Omar is best considered &#8220;an allegation&#8221;:<br />
  <a href="http://www.ehistory.com/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehistory.com/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9</a></p>
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