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		<title>By: Chris Neale</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5416</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Neale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

This is why &#039;rm&#039; should be an alias for &#039;rm -i&#039; [ even for root ]

which prompts you about file ReMoval, but not if you specify -f though : &#124;

no idea is flawless, no *nix user infallible : )</description>
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<p>This is why &#8216;rm&#8217; should be an alias for &#8216;rm -i&#8217; [ even for root ]</p>
<p>which prompts you about file ReMoval, but not if you specify -f though : |</p>
<p>no idea is flawless, no *nix user infallible : )</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5080</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

If you want a friendly unix try AIX. It has the smitty interface that will actually allow a person as dumb as an NT admin perform most tasks without figuring out the command flags.   And every man page there has an example at the end! &#039;man tar&#039; for instance has nine examples for your old friend to look at (&#039;man tar&#039; on linux has zero examples, OTOH).</description>
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<p>If you want a friendly unix try AIX. It has the smitty interface that will actually allow a person as dumb as an NT admin perform most tasks without figuring out the command flags.   And every man page there has an example at the end! &#8216;man tar&#8217; for instance has nine examples for your old friend to look at (&#8217;man tar&#8217; on linux has zero examples, OTOH).</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wise</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5042</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;m afraid the Unix-Haters have the argument here. For example compare the keystrokes to delete the emacs backup files in /etc with another similar set of keystrokes: &#039;rm /etc/*~&#039; amd &#039;rm /etc/* ~&#039; One of my friends typed the latter, and meant the former. He looked, noticed his mistake, and went to press delete. His finger was 1/4&quot; too low, and hit enter instead... 
I&#039;m typing this on a Linux box, but I hope I&#039;m not too blinded by the ideology to ignore the short commings of UNIX. I agree this is a hard problem, but once someone (like Novel Netware, Plan 9, et c.)  solves it I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll kick ourselves for not seeing the light earlier.  Back in the day you could buy a Novel Fileserver, plug it in, and forget about it (the story goes that they would be occasionally found under piles of paper.)  The question should probabily be &quot;Why do I have to administer this stupid computer anyway?&quot;</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m afraid the Unix-Haters have the argument here. For example compare the keystrokes to delete the emacs backup files in /etc with another similar set of keystrokes: &#8216;rm /etc/*~&#8217; amd &#8216;rm /etc/* ~&#8217; One of my friends typed the latter, and meant the former. He looked, noticed his mistake, and went to press delete. His finger was 1/4&#8243; too low, and hit enter instead&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m typing this on a Linux box, but I hope I&#8217;m not too blinded by the ideology to ignore the short commings of UNIX. I agree this is a hard problem, but once someone (like Novel Netware, Plan 9, et c.)  solves it I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll kick ourselves for not seeing the light earlier.  Back in the day you could buy a Novel Fileserver, plug it in, and forget about it (the story goes that they would be occasionally found under piles of paper.)  The question should probabily be &#8220;Why do I have to administer this stupid computer anyway?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: E. Naeher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5036</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Naeher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Reminds me of the time I thought &#039;hmm, I think I&#039;ll patch and recompile the kernel so I can get better ACPI support.&#039;  Hehe.  It took me eight hours in front of the computer to get it to boot again.  This machine will be running Redhat&#039;s stock 2.4.20-8 until the sun goes out, because I am not going through that ever again for love or money.</description>
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<p>Reminds me of the time I thought &#8216;hmm, I think I&#8217;ll patch and recompile the kernel so I can get better ACPI support.&#8217;  Hehe.  It took me eight hours in front of the computer to get it to boot again.  This machine will be running Redhat&#8217;s stock 2.4.20-8 until the sun goes out, because I am not going through that ever again for love or money.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5029</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I find it interesting that your brother also engages in an activity in which the relationship between perfection and death is similarly defined:

http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm

It must be in the genes.</description>
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<p>I find it interesting that your brother also engages in an activity in which the relationship between perfection and death is similarly defined:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm</a></p>
<p>It must be in the genes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chill out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chill out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&gt;Tom&#039;s son was either an idiot to pass up a chance to share that  
&gt; experience with his father, or very astute about measuring his innate
&gt; lack of abilities. I vote the former. 

Chill out man.   Macs are cool, unix is sharp, flying is alright.  I don&#039;t know Tom Wardleigh.   Let&#039;s not call his son an idiot.   This is the internet.  Let&#039;s all get along. You&#039;re okay.  I&#039;m okay.   Tom and his son are cool.  Thanks!</description>
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<p>&gt;Tom&#8217;s son was either an idiot to pass up a chance to share that<br />
&gt; experience with his father, or very astute about measuring his innate<br />
&gt; lack of abilities. I vote the former. </p>
<p>Chill out man.   Macs are cool, unix is sharp, flying is alright.  I don&#8217;t know Tom Wardleigh.   Let&#8217;s not call his son an idiot.   This is the internet.  Let&#8217;s all get along. You&#8217;re okay.  I&#8217;m okay.   Tom and his son are cool.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Alfredo Octavio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5027</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfredo Octavio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Think before you press return... Never log in as root, use sudo instead...</description>
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<p>Think before you press return&#8230; Never log in as root, use sudo instead&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/07/18/gnulinux-considered-harmful/comment-page-1/#comment-5026</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Which is why Mac users hate UNIX&quot; Gee, and I thought I was a Mac user who really liked unix for the last however many years. MacOS X is probably one of the best things to ever happen to the Mac...</description>
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<p>&#8220;Which is why Mac users hate UNIX&#8221; Gee, and I thought I was a Mac user who really liked unix for the last however many years. MacOS X is probably one of the best things to ever happen to the Mac&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

There is something to be said for XP&#039;s System Restore points (basically a versioning and backup system of important settings, drivers, ...?)

I&#039;ve found it has failed me more often than it has helped, but on one or two occasions it certainly did help me out.

Philip, I am curious how old your instructor was when you started your rating?  Kidding.</description>
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<p>There is something to be said for XP&#8217;s System Restore points (basically a versioning and backup system of important settings, drivers, &#8230;?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found it has failed me more often than it has helped, but on one or two occasions it certainly did help me out.</p>
<p>Philip, I am curious how old your instructor was when you started your rating?  Kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: alkali</title>
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		<dc:creator>alkali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Sharp contrast to Windows where the default is to give every user full administrative access, all the time.&quot;

Well, no, unless you&#039;re talking about the version of Windows that ran from DOS and couldn&#039;t have overlapping windows on the desktop.  XP gives you an explicit choice as to whether you run with full privileges.

&quot;The typical Windows user doesn&#039;t even READ dialog boxes or error messages, though, so that&#039;s hardly a big deal.&quot;

Perhaps, but the issue PhilG raised relates to persons who would otherwise be running a Unix variant.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Sharp contrast to Windows where the default is to give every user full administrative access, all the time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no, unless you&#8217;re talking about the version of Windows that ran from DOS and couldn&#8217;t have overlapping windows on the desktop.  XP gives you an explicit choice as to whether you run with full privileges.</p>
<p>&#8220;The typical Windows user doesn&#8217;t even READ dialog boxes or error messages, though, so that&#8217;s hardly a big deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps, but the issue PhilG raised relates to persons who would otherwise be running a Unix variant.</p>
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