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		<title>By: Milst</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/25/riaa-friendship-and-prostitution/comment-page-1/#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Milst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 11:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Maddening!!!!!!!!!</description>
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<p>Maddening!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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Re the law that prohibits CD rentals: did you mean you couldn&#039;t find the &#039;statue&#039;, or the &#039;statute&#039;? And, if a statute, is the reason you couldn&#039;t find it because it doesn&#039;t exist? I think I&#039;ll have a look over on urbandlegends.com.</description>
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<p>Re the law that prohibits CD rentals: did you mean you couldn&#8217;t find the &#8217;statue&#8217;, or the &#8217;statute&#8217;? And, if a statute, is the reason you couldn&#8217;t find it because it doesn&#8217;t exist? I think I&#8217;ll have a look over on&nbsp;<a href="http://urbandlegends.com" title="http://urbandlegends. " target="_blank">urbandlegends.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Irakli Nadareishvili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irakli Nadareishvili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Philip wrote: &quot;Home taping was always in legal limbo.  Record companies claimed it was costing them $billions.  Most consumers thought it was fair use.  Record companies hadn&#039;t yet developed their brilliant business strategy of suing 12-year-olds and therefore there was no judge to establish a precedent.&quot;

I think they can not sue, not because there&#039;s not a precedent, but because there is. Long time ago they tried to sue Sony for producing home vide-recorders. They lost, Sony won.

One thing I found very funny was when I last went to movie theater and they ran an ad, before the movie, showing some video-technician, saying that it is not huge-salary producers that suffer from pirate-copying but &quot;ordinary&quot; people like him.

Well, somehow it is still huge-corporations-backed RIAA who is suing people, is not it? 

One more very funny thing was when Madonna tried to be &quot;smart&quot;, putting a huge file on a file-sharing network, so that people would think it&#039;s her latest video and use up their internet traffic in vain. File was mostly blank, with small recording of Madonna&#039;s voice saying &quot;What the *** do you think you are doing?&quot; The result was her site being hacked with a reply &quot;This is what the *** we  think we are doing&quot;. :)</description>
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<p>Philip wrote: &#8220;Home taping was always in legal limbo.  Record companies claimed it was costing them $billions.  Most consumers thought it was fair use.  Record companies hadn&#8217;t yet developed their brilliant business strategy of suing 12-year-olds and therefore there was no judge to establish a precedent.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think they can not sue, not because there&#8217;s not a precedent, but because there is. Long time ago they tried to sue Sony for producing home vide-recorders. They lost, Sony won.</p>
<p>One thing I found very funny was when I last went to movie theater and they ran an ad, before the movie, showing some video-technician, saying that it is not huge-salary producers that suffer from pirate-copying but &#8220;ordinary&#8221; people like him.</p>
<p>Well, somehow it is still huge-corporations-backed RIAA who is suing people, is not it? </p>
<p>One more very funny thing was when Madonna tried to be &#8220;smart&#8221;, putting a huge file on a file-sharing network, so that people would think it&#8217;s her latest video and use up their internet traffic in vain. File was mostly blank, with small recording of Madonna&#8217;s voice saying &#8220;What the *** do you think you are doing?&#8221; The result was her site being hacked with a reply &#8220;This is what the *** we  think we are doing&#8221;. <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;b&gt;Senor Greenspun&lt;/b&gt; wrote &lt;i&gt;It bothers me that I can&#039;t find the statue but some time in the 1980s...&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps you were looking for 17 USC 109 (b)(1)(A)?  I remember I used to be able to go to the computer store and rent Ultima IV before this law got passed.

...the owner of a particular phonorecord...(may not)...dispose of...that phonorecord...by rental, lease, or lending...</description>
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<p><b>Senor Greenspun</b> wrote <i>It bothers me that I can&#8217;t find the statue but some time in the 1980s&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Perhaps you were looking for 17 USC 109 (b)(1)(A)?  I remember I used to be able to go to the computer store and rent Ultima IV before this law got passed.</p>
<p>&#8230;the owner of a particular phonorecord&#8230;(may not)&#8230;dispose of&#8230;that phonorecord&#8230;by rental, lease, or lending&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Greenspun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Greenspun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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Good point, Demetri.  Probably it is a mistake for any American to choose a career that can be done while sitting at a computer screen, just as it is probably a great idea for someone in India to choose such a career; presumably in a totally rational economy the wages for such jobs will reach a worldwide equilibrium.  But an MIT grad who goes to med school can always become a surgeon or pick a similarly hands-on speciality.

[This might not work for elective surgery.  A friend of mine wants to get his eyes blasted with lasers.  The Boston doctors who do this charge about $5000.  One of the world&#039;s leading specialists is in Montreal, where laser eye correction has been an approved procedure for many more years than here in the U.S. and consequently this guy has more experience than any American eye surgeon.  The price for the procedure in Canada?  Done by the world&#039;s leading practitioner? About $1600.]</description>
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<p>Good point, Demetri.  Probably it is a mistake for any American to choose a career that can be done while sitting at a computer screen, just as it is probably a great idea for someone in India to choose such a career; presumably in a totally rational economy the wages for such jobs will reach a worldwide equilibrium.  But an MIT grad who goes to med school can always become a surgeon or pick a similarly hands-on speciality.</p>
<p>[This might not work for elective surgery.  A friend of mine wants to get his eyes blasted with lasers.  The Boston doctors who do this charge about $5000.  One of the world's leading specialists is in Montreal, where laser eye correction has been an approved procedure for many more years than here in the U.S. and consequently this guy has more experience than any American eye surgeon.  The price for the procedure in Canada?  Done by the world's leading practitioner? About $1600.]</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Greenspun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/25/riaa-friendship-and-prostitution/comment-page-1/#comment-6254</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Greenspun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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Est Onian:  The students are only given about 20 minutes in-class to work on the data modelling problem.  I picked the application of a private MP3-sharing system because it is sort of obvious to the students how it should work (though in fact it is quite different from Napster, et al, in that this is for a private group of registered users and the server keeps track of what they&#039;ve already downloaded, what they like, who contributed what to the library, etc.).

Don&#039;t feel bad for MIT grads, even if it takes some more than 20 minutes to normalize that data model.  Any of them who choose to do so can go to medical school, become radiologists, live comfortably on $200,000 per year, and, if they&#039;re still interested in computer nerdism, the remainder of their salary (the average radiologist in the U.S. makes about $300,000 per year) should suffice to hire at least 3 full-time Java coders in Eastern Europe or India.</description>
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<p>Est Onian:  The students are only given about 20 minutes in-class to work on the data modelling problem.  I picked the application of a private MP3-sharing system because it is sort of obvious to the students how it should work (though in fact it is quite different from Napster, et al, in that this is for a private group of registered users and the server keeps track of what they&#8217;ve already downloaded, what they like, who contributed what to the library, etc.).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t feel bad for MIT grads, even if it takes some more than 20 minutes to normalize that data model.  Any of them who choose to do so can go to medical school, become radiologists, live comfortably on $200,000 per year, and, if they&#8217;re still interested in computer nerdism, the remainder of their salary (the average radiologist in the U.S. makes about $300,000 per year) should suffice to hire at least 3 full-time Java coders in Eastern Europe or India.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dufair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Dufair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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jerry: I can&#039;t see how odd liquor laws refute (via your use of the term &quot;but&quot;) my definition of friendship.  I don&#039;t believe and wouldn&#039;t assert (friend == fellow_club_member), if that was the implication.  But I wouldn&#039;t know.  I&#039;d never become a member of a club that would have me as a member. (Thanks to Groucho Marx)</description>
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<p>jerry: I can&#8217;t see how odd liquor laws refute (via your use of the term &#8220;but&#8221;) my definition of friendship.  I don&#8217;t believe and wouldn&#8217;t assert (friend == fellow_club_member), if that was the implication.  But I wouldn&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;d never become a member of a club that would have me as a member. (Thanks to Groucho Marx)</p>
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		<title>By: Est Onian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Est Onian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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I think it&#039;s funny, Phil is lecturinig students at the most prestigious technical school on the planet, with some of the best funding on the planet, though I think that cal tech spends more on their kids, and he wants them to come up with an mp3 file sharing program. Meanwhile, back at the ranch in e europe, a couple of estonian dudes already have figured it out...without MIT. and it works well. and is on 60,000,000 computers in America alone. Anyone else thinking &quot;MIT = just another overrated, over priced camp for 18-22 year-olds?&quot; Meanwhile, phil brags that one of his students has set up an exciting dog-adoption database.</description>
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<p>I think it&#8217;s funny, Phil is lecturinig students at the most prestigious technical school on the planet, with some of the best funding on the planet, though I think that cal tech spends more on their kids, and he wants them to come up with an mp3 file sharing program. Meanwhile, back at the ranch in e europe, a couple of estonian dudes already have figured it out&#8230;without MIT. and it works well. and is on 60,000,000 computers in America alone. Anyone else thinking &#8220;MIT = just another overrated, over priced camp for 18-22 year-olds?&#8221; Meanwhile, phil brags that one of his students has set up an exciting dog-adoption database.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Stealing or not stealing regardless of recording or copying, that&#039;s just an act which when the law was enacted was sufficient - until technology changes the landscape.

But all is equation.

Somebody is keeping a score on all this that makes it viable for artistes to thrive, consumers satiated, and recording companies bloated.

A equation which the court-of-law cannot uphold can only be justified by the strength of itself.</description>
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<p>Stealing or not stealing regardless of recording or copying, that&#8217;s just an act which when the law was enacted was sufficient &#8211; until technology changes the landscape.</p>
<p>But all is equation.</p>
<p>Somebody is keeping a score on all this that makes it viable for artistes to thrive, consumers satiated, and recording companies bloated.</p>
<p>A equation which the court-of-law cannot uphold can only be justified by the strength of itself.</p>
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