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P. Logan : IMHO Watergate was peanuts comparing to Clinton’s coconuts (not mentionning GW Bush one’s). Starting with the Waco, TX blunder + cover-up

Sorry this is so off topic.

My theory: I think what got people on the track of questioning your Israeli Exceptionalism is your blogging history about Israeli policy, but more on target is that statement about Nixon getting us out of the Vietnam war, which while I took issue with it as being grossly uninformed, other people associate with Kissinger. Kissinger, under Nixon, truly solidified the debacle Stalemate policy toward Israel that exists up until today.

While you might think I’m anti-Israel, I consider myself actually pro-Israel. But I also consider myself pro-Palestinian. I always try to think of what has not been working for the Israelis and the Palestinians and think of how to change it because I want peace and justice for both parties. I firmly believe that taking an anti-stance on either concerned party will not move one iota toward peace.

Greg: I do hit the polo ball around a bit with my friend Max, who is really into the game. The riding lessons are an attempt to make this activity less life-threatening. Also, I would like to take some 10-day tours of foreign countries on horseback so I need to get more comfortable at faster gaits. My feet are completely flat so I look for any opportunity to do things outdoors that don’t require supporting all of my weight (stubbornly stuck at 195 lbs., which the Federales say is too fat for a 6′ tall guy, and which prevents flying the R22 helicopter with an instructor and full fuel) on my feet.

Dogbert: What breed? I don’t have my own horse but just ride whatever horses are available. My friend’s polo horses are from Argentina. The horses at the riding school seem to be mostly thoroughbred mixtures of various kinds.

Nick: I didn’t mean to pass judgement on Nixon’s achievements or lack thereof. I was merely offering ideas for what I thought the man would write about rather than his childrens’ pets. It is kind of funny that a review of Clinton’s spectacularly terrible book brings out so much hatred of Israel among the blog commenters. Perhaps they blame the Jews working in the U.S. publishing industry for publishing any tedious book but it is hard to see what the Israelis had to do with it.

Considering the pace at which Clinton wrote the book, and the tiny timespan from departing the WhiteHouse to starting writing (funny what needing money will do), it is not surprising that the book is without reflection. Insight takes time.

I just looked up RN (Nixon’s first memoir)–many of the criticisms are that he didn’t wait long enough either.

To the guy who is swearing at Philip, please stop. While I do not accept uncritical support of Israeli policies either, your ad homenim attack undermines any argument you may make. If you have something to contend, I’d like to hear it. But attacking Philip personally, ingnoring what Philip is saying serves nothing other than to sever the connection between all of us and ultimately undermine justice for Palestinians and Israelis both.

Philip, Nixon “got us out of Vietnam”? Which US history book did you get that from? Explain yourself: I rememeber Nixon expanded the war by secretly bombing Cambodia and North Vietnam in 1970 onwards. The final US pullout of the region happened in 1977 with the US evacuation of Pnom Pen, three years after Nixon’s resignation.

The Vietnam war was the longest war the US has ever waged. Depending on who you read, the war started a few years after Den Bien Phu. That would put its beginnings at around 1960, which coincides with my friend’s orders that put him, a USMC medic at the time, in Saigon.

Oh, Kansas fools! Poor Kansas fools!
The banker makes of you a tool.

Effete Eastern Seaboard snob. Just joking. We ride endurance but you can be very sure we don’t do endurance riding.
Don’t let the ticks and deerflys get you.
What breed are you taking lessions on? Also what kind of lessions?

Philip, with this attitude of yours I have one thing to say to you. This is Cheney’s trademark though: “Go fuck yourself.” big time. For you the only good option is the president who supports Israel like a sick puppy. Well again, you can “go fuck yourself.”

English riding lessons? Are you thinking of taking up polo?