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		<title>By: BadBilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadBilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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Sounds plausible, but as a Today Show watcher (turn it on whilst I ready myself for work), I was MUCH more moved by Katrina than by 9/11, mainly because of the government&#039;s slow response. I actually threw things at the TV and cursed Bush....</description>
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<p>Sounds plausible, but as a Today Show watcher (turn it on whilst I ready myself for work), I was MUCH more moved by Katrina than by 9/11, mainly because of the government&#8217;s slow response. I actually threw things at the TV and cursed Bush&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Radinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Radinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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My perspective is that TV is good for some types of news and bad for others. Where TV truly excels is what I call &quot;breaking news&quot; -- stuff happening *right*now*. Where TV is horrible is context, depth of understanding, understanding how events fit into the big picture, etc. Hurricane Katrina is a perfect example of this. After watching 2 days of 24-hour TV coverage, I got on the internet, and discovered that the internet completely failed at conveying any real sense of the power of the storm and the scope of the disaster. I actually believe people with no TV access just have no idea. Now that the storm has passed, TV will do a truly horrible job at explaining why the disaster response was so bad -- the science of levees and hurricanes, the politics of emergency response, conflict behind the scenes between federal, state, local officials, etc etc. The internet will fill in that gap, along with other media that lack the visual power and immediacy of television. I watch little TV and almost never watch TV news, but when Katrina became a category 5 and the evacuation order went out, the first thing I did was turn on my TV to see what was going on. I think TV news is great if you approach it with the proper expectations -- immediate, breaking news, with no context/understanding.</description>
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<p>My perspective is that TV is good for some types of news and bad for others. Where TV truly excels is what I call &#8220;breaking news&#8221; &#8212; stuff happening *right*now*. Where TV is horrible is context, depth of understanding, understanding how events fit into the big picture, etc. Hurricane Katrina is a perfect example of this. After watching 2 days of 24-hour TV coverage, I got on the internet, and discovered that the internet completely failed at conveying any real sense of the power of the storm and the scope of the disaster. I actually believe people with no TV access just have no idea. Now that the storm has passed, TV will do a truly horrible job at explaining why the disaster response was so bad &#8212; the science of levees and hurricanes, the politics of emergency response, conflict behind the scenes between federal, state, local officials, etc etc. The internet will fill in that gap, along with other media that lack the visual power and immediacy of television. I watch little TV and almost never watch TV news, but when Katrina became a category 5 and the evacuation order went out, the first thing I did was turn on my TV to see what was going on. I think TV news is great if you approach it with the proper expectations &#8212; immediate, breaking news, with no context/understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek K. Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek K. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I think your point is a good one, but in this case I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a negative one. In disaster circumstances, perhaps _only_ television can convey the scale and chaos along with the emotions it engenders. TV is poor at relating complex ideas, but the impact hurricane destruction is not complex. Certainly, people _should_ be upset about this situation, and if TV for once helps people get a more accurate impression of what&#039;s going on, perhaps that is for the good.</description>
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<p>I think your point is a good one, but in this case I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a negative one. In disaster circumstances, perhaps _only_ television can convey the scale and chaos along with the emotions it engenders. TV is poor at relating complex ideas, but the impact hurricane destruction is not complex. Certainly, people _should_ be upset about this situation, and if TV for once helps people get a more accurate impression of what&#8217;s going on, perhaps that is for the good.</p>
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		<title>By: naum</title>
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		<dc:creator>naum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Absolutely.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve suspected for awhile that TV is partly responsible for more and more people&#039;s seeming to have very strong feelings about matters that they don&#039;t really know anything about.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On my blog front page (http://azplace.net), I keep links to CNN/MSNBC show transcripts (http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/, http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/), and one can easily read a transcript for an hour long news program in just a few moments, and the information gleaned will be far less than a well written article of a quarter of that transcript length.

But video clips on TV (and one day on the web, when we have true media quality broadband quality) convey emotional messages in much more concentrated fashion than reading articles peppered with photos. And this is why the government goes to great strides to limit this power in wartime (and now, as they are blocking media access, but we&#039;ve already seen enough of NO/LA to have those emotional responders triggered.</description>
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<p>Absolutely.</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve suspected for awhile that TV is partly responsible for more and more people&#8217;s seeming to have very strong feelings about matters that they don&#8217;t really know anything about.</p></blockquote>
<p>On my blog front page (<a href="http://azplace.net)" rel="nofollow">http://azplace.net)</a>, I keep links to CNN/MSNBC show transcripts (<a href="http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/</a>, <a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/)" rel="nofollow">http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/)</a>, and one can easily read a transcript for an hour long news program in just a few moments, and the information gleaned will be far less than a well written article of a quarter of that transcript length.</p>
<p>But video clips on TV (and one day on the web, when we have true media quality broadband quality) convey emotional messages in much more concentrated fashion than reading articles peppered with photos. And this is why the government goes to great strides to limit this power in wartime (and now, as they are blocking media access, but we&#8217;ve already seen enough of NO/LA to have those emotional responders triggered.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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Duh, Phil, where have you been all these years? ;-)

Have you read any of Neil Postman&#039;s trenchant arguments against the existence of TV? (&quot;Amusing Ourselves to Death&quot; is perhaps the best.)

One of his main points: TV can never rise above titillation, no matter how brainy or important the subject matter.

So it&#039;s no surprise if the main things that result from the massive multi-hour daily brainwashing sessions that TV provides people world-wide are (a) a false sense of being connected and (b) understanding what&#039;s going on, and (c) a great deal of useless stress as people emote about things that are completely unrelated to them.</description>
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<p>Duh, Phil, where have you been all these years? <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have you read any of Neil Postman&#8217;s trenchant arguments against the existence of TV? (&#8221;Amusing Ourselves to Death&#8221; is perhaps the best.)</p>
<p>One of his main points: TV can never rise above titillation, no matter how brainy or important the subject matter.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s no surprise if the main things that result from the massive multi-hour daily brainwashing sessions that TV provides people world-wide are (a) a false sense of being connected and (b) understanding what&#8217;s going on, and (c) a great deal of useless stress as people emote about things that are completely unrelated to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. Hershberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. Hershberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I was very upset, very emotionally disturbed.  But I just moved from NOLA two years ago and many friends and in-laws still live there.

I don&#039;t have a working TV.  It went kaput the same day that the hurricane hit.

It would be interesting to compare how people feel about this event with Sept. 11, 2001.  I didn&#039;t feel as affected by that event.  I didn&#039;t watch a lot of TV on it (more than Katrina, though).  And, I didn&#039;t know anyone in NYC.</description>
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<p>I was very upset, very emotionally disturbed.  But I just moved from NOLA two years ago and many friends and in-laws still live there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a working TV.  It went kaput the same day that the hurricane hit.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to compare how people feel about this event with Sept. 11, 2001.  I didn&#8217;t feel as affected by that event.  I didn&#8217;t watch a lot of TV on it (more than Katrina, though).  And, I didn&#8217;t know anyone in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Flax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Flax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I tend to agree, I&#039;ve suspected for awhile that TV is partly responsible for more and more people&#039;s seeming to have very strong feelings about matters that they don&#039;t really know anything about.</description>
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<p>I tend to agree, I&#8217;ve suspected for awhile that TV is partly responsible for more and more people&#8217;s seeming to have very strong feelings about matters that they don&#8217;t really know anything about.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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I fully agree. The only exception being Adam Curtis&#039; documentaries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis which use old clippings to convey information. As well as perhaps travel videos or home repair videos which don&#039;t convey _more_ information, they do it in a more understandable way.</description>
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<p>I fully agree. The only exception being Adam Curtis&#8217; documentaries. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curtis</a> which use old clippings to convey information. As well as perhaps travel videos or home repair videos which don&#8217;t convey _more_ information, they do it in a more understandable way.</p>
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		<title>By: J Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

TV actually made me less upset (though the effect of watching TV coverage was still an emotional one, namely, that of relief).

I watch very little television, and unless there&#039;s a dire emergency, I never watch TV news. By last Thursday, I had became very upset by what I read online - &quot;the Interdictor&#039;s&quot; first-person account, news sites, and various blogs. On Thursday night, I watched about 30 minutes of TV coverage (for the first time) of the event, and in a way, it set my mind at ease - seeing footage of rescue efforts, etc.</description>
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<p>TV actually made me less upset (though the effect of watching TV coverage was still an emotional one, namely, that of relief).</p>
<p>I watch very little television, and unless there&#8217;s a dire emergency, I never watch TV news. By last Thursday, I had became very upset by what I read online &#8211; &#8220;the Interdictor&#8217;s&#8221; first-person account, news sites, and various blogs. On Thursday night, I watched about 30 minutes of TV coverage (for the first time) of the event, and in a way, it set my mind at ease &#8211; seeing footage of rescue efforts, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Phil,

You correctly point out that this is a correlation, but in the second paragraph you seem to be leaping to the conclusion that the direction of the causation is known. 

Correlation is not causation, in either direction, but it certainly seems simpler to assume that the cause is interest and the effect is watching. 

I have been watching TV coverage of Katrina because I have been feeling emotionially involved. I don&#039;t normally watch any TV news programming, but I have been watching an hour or more for the past 10 days, since I became aware of the hurricane bearing down on New Orleans. I was interested so I watch.

Wouldn&#039;t you be surprised if people who didn&#039;t care were spending their time watching?</description>
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<p>Phil,</p>
<p>You correctly point out that this is a correlation, but in the second paragraph you seem to be leaping to the conclusion that the direction of the causation is known. </p>
<p>Correlation is not causation, in either direction, but it certainly seems simpler to assume that the cause is interest and the effect is watching. </p>
<p>I have been watching TV coverage of Katrina because I have been feeling emotionially involved. I don&#8217;t normally watch any TV news programming, but I have been watching an hour or more for the past 10 days, since I became aware of the hurricane bearing down on New Orleans. I was interested so I watch.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you be surprised if people who didn&#8217;t care were spending their time watching?</p>
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