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	<title>Comments on: Dumb towns getting dumber; smart towns getting smarter?</title>
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		<title>By: PistusSophia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2006/04/02/dumb-towns-getting-dumber-smart-towns-getting-smarter/comment-page-1/#comment-138823</link>
		<dc:creator>PistusSophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in the Chicago area for 35 years. I never quite liked the arrogance that the wealth promulgated, and I didn&#039;t like the way the &quot;have nots&quot; retaliated with either violence or substance abuse. I am now raising my family in a smaller town, and am taking advantage of it&#039;s safety, slower moving, politeness, etc., for my children&#039;s sake. What I have found, though, is that these people refuse to think for themselves and fight for their town; fight for their rights and their wallets, while the so called &quot;leaders&quot; of this town are running roughshod over residents trying to &quot;keep up with the Jones&quot; without a clue what they are doing. Am I destined to either live in a smart, jerky town...or a town of polite stupidity? One can&#039;t have small, SMART town to live in???? Can&#039;t have your cake and eat it too? This nation needs large cities with large business, but it also needs small towns with natural beauty...there has got to be a place filled with good, caring people who also know how, and are willing to, THINK and FIGHT for what is right against the obvious wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in the Chicago area for 35 years. I never quite liked the arrogance that the wealth promulgated, and I didn&#8217;t like the way the &#8220;have nots&#8221; retaliated with either violence or substance abuse. I am now raising my family in a smaller town, and am taking advantage of it&#8217;s safety, slower moving, politeness, etc., for my children&#8217;s sake. What I have found, though, is that these people refuse to think for themselves and fight for their town; fight for their rights and their wallets, while the so called &#8220;leaders&#8221; of this town are running roughshod over residents trying to &#8220;keep up with the Jones&#8221; without a clue what they are doing. Am I destined to either live in a smart, jerky town&#8230;or a town of polite stupidity? One can&#8217;t have small, SMART town to live in???? Can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it too? This nation needs large cities with large business, but it also needs small towns with natural beauty&#8230;there has got to be a place filled with good, caring people who also know how, and are willing to, THINK and FIGHT for what is right against the obvious wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps there is some self-sorting going on, but communities still need a mix of types to thrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps there is some self-sorting going on, but communities still need a mix of types to thrive.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston L. Bannister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston L. Bannister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 11:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if once true (perhaps pre-Internet), how long will this stay true?  Living in the suburbs of a mega-city is not any more stimulating than living in a smaller town.  

Flip this around - consider this as an intelligence test of sorts.  Given a choice, would you live where real estate is pricey, where traffic is a pain, and where the pollution levels are greater?

Given a choice, for someone of more average means, spending far less for a decent place to live and raise your kids is a very smart choice.</description>
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<p>Flip this around &#8211; consider this as an intelligence test of sorts.  Given a choice, would you live where real estate is pricey, where traffic is a pain, and where the pollution levels are greater?</p>
<p>Given a choice, for someone of more average means, spending far less for a decent place to live and raise your kids is a very smart choice.</p>
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		<title>By: 32 Papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>32 Papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Actually, according to this boston globe article - http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/20/bay_state_exodus_2d_only_to_ny/ - more people are leaving Boston, NY, and SF to move to the &quot;dumb&quot; south. I guess only the smart people move to expensive, traffic-riddled cities, while the dumb people are moving to more reasonably priced, better lifestyle areas...</description>
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<p>Actually, according to this boston globe article &#8211; <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/20/bay_state_exodus_2d_only_to_ny/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/04/20/bay_state_exodus_2d_only_to_ny/</a> &#8211; more people are leaving Boston, NY, and SF to move to the &#8220;dumb&#8221; south. I guess only the smart people move to expensive, traffic-riddled cities, while the dumb people are moving to more reasonably priced, better lifestyle areas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;It was impossible not to notice the difference in average intelligence between Lawrence, the university town, and Liberal, a beef-processing and Walmart town.&quot; I just don&#039;t see how one can make such a judgement passing through. But the author seems to be in need of stimulation - which he is finding in high risk flying -- and casting the world in black and white may make the world more interesting to him.</description>
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<p>&#8220;It was impossible not to notice the difference in average intelligence between Lawrence, the university town, and Liberal, a beef-processing and Walmart town.&#8221; I just don&#8217;t see how one can make such a judgement passing through. But the author seems to be in need of stimulation &#8211; which he is finding in high risk flying &#8212; and casting the world in black and white may make the world more interesting to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Wiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Wiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Wish I would have known you were coming to Lawrence, I would have offerend to show you around our little Oasis on the Plains. :)</description>
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<p>Wish I would have known you were coming to Lawrence, I would have offerend to show you around our little Oasis on the Plains. <img src='http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hoult</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Hoult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

When I&#039;ve driven across the USA I&#039;ve noticed the same thing, and yet I just don&#039;t see it here in New Zealand.  I do a bit of a random sampling of rural NZ people by the technique of failing to get to where I&#039;m going in a sailplane and landing in a handy paddock.  My take on it, for what it&#039;s worth, is that here farmers are small businessmen who each have to be reasonably skilled at everything from accounting to soil science to building a fence to animal husbandry.  Many (maybe most by now) have university education.  In the USA the family farm is long gone, replaced by huge companies, a few skilled managers, and mostly unskilled and uneducated labour.</description>
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<p>When I&#8217;ve driven across the USA I&#8217;ve noticed the same thing, and yet I just don&#8217;t see it here in New Zealand.  I do a bit of a random sampling of rural NZ people by the technique of failing to get to where I&#8217;m going in a sailplane and landing in a handy paddock.  My take on it, for what it&#8217;s worth, is that here farmers are small businessmen who each have to be reasonably skilled at everything from accounting to soil science to building a fence to animal husbandry.  Many (maybe most by now) have university education.  In the USA the family farm is long gone, replaced by huge companies, a few skilled managers, and mostly unskilled and uneducated labour.</p>
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		<title>By: aminorex</title>
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		<dc:creator>aminorex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

It does tend to elicit a reflexive spasm when someone avers that a class that includes you is statistically inferior.  But of course, the inflammatory nature of the commentary does not impugn its substantive claim.  It&#039;s a pretty weakly supported claim, in any case, and scarcely merits any sort of defensive reaction, although it is interesting and worthy of discussion.  I find that my best colleagues are found in remote locations.  The ability to retire from the unhealthful urban environment while performing stimulating and rewarding work is reserved for the better minds among us.  I do expect that the average intelligence of urban populations will vary with the density of intellectual attractions, and I do expect impoverished areas with moderate to high population density to suffer as well, but lower density and scenic areas tend to attract those with the power to choose their workplace, and small towns tend to attract people who care enough about the welfare of their children to have good success in childrearing.</description>
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<p>It does tend to elicit a reflexive spasm when someone avers that a class that includes you is statistically inferior.  But of course, the inflammatory nature of the commentary does not impugn its substantive claim.  It&#8217;s a pretty weakly supported claim, in any case, and scarcely merits any sort of defensive reaction, although it is interesting and worthy of discussion.  I find that my best colleagues are found in remote locations.  The ability to retire from the unhealthful urban environment while performing stimulating and rewarding work is reserved for the better minds among us.  I do expect that the average intelligence of urban populations will vary with the density of intellectual attractions, and I do expect impoverished areas with moderate to high population density to suffer as well, but lower density and scenic areas tend to attract those with the power to choose their workplace, and small towns tend to attract people who care enough about the welfare of their children to have good success in childrearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Internet friends, your general analysis of Lawrence may be true, but your methods are very flawed.  It turns out that the visible culture of each town may lead you to the conclusions I&#039;ve read on this blog, but Lawrence is peopled with probably an equal number of intellegently challenged people.  Lawrence&#039;s population is just bigger.  And there&#039;s a college, which means there are more psuedo-intellectuals sitting in coffeehouses stroking eachothers egos.  &quot;Smart towns&quot; populate themselves with just as many dumb people trying to be smart as the genuinely intellegent.  Take it from a long time Jayhawk.</description>
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<p>Internet friends, your general analysis of Lawrence may be true, but your methods are very flawed.  It turns out that the visible culture of each town may lead you to the conclusions I&#8217;ve read on this blog, but Lawrence is peopled with probably an equal number of intellegently challenged people.  Lawrence&#8217;s population is just bigger.  And there&#8217;s a college, which means there are more psuedo-intellectuals sitting in coffeehouses stroking eachothers egos.  &#8220;Smart towns&#8221; populate themselves with just as many dumb people trying to be smart as the genuinely intellegent.  Take it from a long time Jayhawk.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-IBMer myself</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-IBMer myself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

mikhail bruttleheimer - You&#039;re pretty good at jumping to conclusions, aren&#039;t you?  First, I am not retired.  I am now the CTO of an early stage software company in the health care industry which is currently concluding a successful round of fund raising.  Second, no one has mentioned menial labor; I am talking about a person who has, on scores of occasions, educated the customer, designed the solution, and run a profitable multi-million dollar project.  Hmm, I have just done a search at Google for &quot;mikhail bruttleheimer&quot; and that search produced zero results.  I think the time I spent writing this has been wasted talking to a nobody.  Go out and accomplish something (I don&#039;t care what city you live in while you are doing it), then come back and we&#039;ll talk.</description>
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<p>mikhail bruttleheimer &#8211; You&#8217;re pretty good at jumping to conclusions, aren&#8217;t you?  First, I am not retired.  I am now the CTO of an early stage software company in the health care industry which is currently concluding a successful round of fund raising.  Second, no one has mentioned menial labor; I am talking about a person who has, on scores of occasions, educated the customer, designed the solution, and run a profitable multi-million dollar project.  Hmm, I have just done a search at Google for &#8220;mikhail bruttleheimer&#8221; and that search produced zero results.  I think the time I spent writing this has been wasted talking to a nobody.  Go out and accomplish something (I don&#8217;t care what city you live in while you are doing it), then come back and we&#8217;ll talk.</p>
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