Comments on: What is the most camera-like camera phone available right now? http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/ A posting every day; an interesting idea every three months... Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:28:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: Ellis Vener http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-46935 Ellis Vener Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:01:51 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-46935 no idea about camera phones but some more general suggestions: 2GB and 4GB Compact Flash or SD memory cards. I like SanDisk Extremes. These things are getting very inexpensive these days. Good for stocking stuffers. X-Rite i1 Display 2 colorimeter and Eye MAtch calibration/profilign software package : if you have decent monitor and you actaull ywantto know what your digital photos look like for color balance before printign, you need one. Skip over the HUEY and get something that works. A 500Gb External HD (or two) everybody needs to back up. A compact Flash /SD card card reader. Reallyit's dumb to download withthe cable connected to the camera. "The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Adventure" by Mikkel Aaland. Lightroom does 98% of the work most photogrpahers think they need Photoshop for. Thisis an excelelnt guide to its capabilities. If your giftee uses Nikon cameras and lenses and you've got a large budget for them: A Nikon D300. If you have areally large budget: A D3. Also the new 14-24mm f/2.8 Nikkor orthe new 24-70mm f/2.8 : both are excellent sets of optics. If they use Canon? A 40D or the 1D mark 3. The updated 16-35mm F2.8L II is pretty nifty as well as is the 17-40mm f/4L Finally; A Wacom Intuous 3 Digitizing tablet & pen. I only recently became a convert to using one of these. it really does make a genuine real world difference when doign all sorts of compouting work, not just when using your favorite digital darkroom program. no idea about camera phones but some more general suggestions:

2GB and 4GB Compact Flash or SD memory cards. I like SanDisk Extremes. These things are getting very inexpensive these days. Good for stocking stuffers.

X-Rite i1 Display 2 colorimeter and Eye MAtch calibration/profilign software package : if you have decent monitor and you actaull ywantto know what your digital photos look like for color balance before printign, you need one. Skip over the HUEY and get something that works.

A 500Gb External HD (or two) everybody needs to back up.

A compact Flash /SD card card reader. Reallyit’s dumb to download withthe cable connected to the camera.

“The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Adventure” by Mikkel Aaland. Lightroom does 98% of the work most photogrpahers think they need Photoshop for. Thisis an excelelnt guide to its capabilities.

If your giftee uses Nikon cameras and lenses and you’ve got a large budget for them: A Nikon D300. If you have areally large budget: A D3. Also the new 14-24mm f/2.8 Nikkor orthe new 24-70mm f/2.8 : both are excellent sets of optics.

If they use Canon? A 40D or the 1D mark 3. The updated 16-35mm F2.8L II is pretty nifty as well as is the 17-40mm f/4L

Finally;

A Wacom Intuous 3 Digitizing tablet & pen. I only recently became a convert to using one of these. it really does make a genuine real world difference when doign all sorts of compouting work, not just when using your favorite digital darkroom program.

]]> By: tony http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44872 tony Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:02:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44872 don't know if you caught it...but Samsung is launching a 5 megapixel camera phone next month...more info at the link: http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/22/samsungs-5-megapixel-g800-gets-launched-available-next-month/ has 3X optical zoom and a xenon flash...looks like a camera from the back. don’t know if you caught it…but Samsung is launching a 5 megapixel camera phone next month…more info at the link:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/22/samsungs-5-megapixel-g800-gets-launched-available-next-month/

has 3X optical zoom and a xenon flash…looks like a camera from the back.

]]> By: Kishore Balakrishnan http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44576 Kishore Balakrishnan Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:12:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44576 Am very happy with a Nokia N73. Even though N95 has been available since many months, am waiting for the N95 8GB ( http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1159826 ) Am very happy with a Nokia N73. Even though N95 has been available since many months, am waiting for the N95 8GB ( http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1159826 )

]]> By: Matt Haughey http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44522 Matt Haughey Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:18:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44522 I've owned two high end sony ericsson phones and they've taken amazing pictures (they are essentially a sony cybershot camera with phone guts added). The newest is a k850 and it does 5megapixel photos: http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=441 I’ve owned two high end sony ericsson phones and they’ve taken amazing pictures (they are essentially a sony cybershot camera with phone guts added). The newest is a k850 and it does 5megapixel photos:

http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=441

]]> By: Alek http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44502 Alek Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:08:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44502 Nokia's N95 is the best of what's available in the west. Nokia’s N95 is the best of what’s available in the west.

]]> By: Samuel Lipoff http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44427 Samuel Lipoff Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:29:13 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44427 One option would be the Samsung SCH-A990, available in the US through Verzion, which has a 3.2-megapixel camera. Samsung has a 10-megapixel phone, the SCH-B600, only in Korea, but there's a five megapixel phone called the G600 (and also the G800) for sale in Europe. It is a quad-band GSM phone, so an unlocked version could be used in the United States without issue, on AT&T or T-Mobile, if you can buy one. The Nokia N95 is available in the US, in unlocked GSM versions, and has a 5-megapixel camera. So is the Sony K850i, which also has a 5-megapixel camera. There are a number of other Asian companies that make 4+ megapixel camera phones, many of which are tri-band GSM phones, but difficult to obtain in the US. I've only played with these fleetingly at shows like COMEX in Singapore and CES, so I don't have an informed opinion about which has decent image quality and functional ergonomics. Unfortunately, simply integrating a high pixel count CCD or CMOS into a mobile phone does not make for a usable camera. In particular, battery life is often a major issue with these types of devices. There may be some benefits to mobile device convergence, but I think that for many people some device divergence and redundancy may actually be better. Carrying both a modern mobile phone and a Casio Exilim S-series camera is thinner and lighter than many mobile phones from just a generation ago or compact digital cameras alone. Also, for what it's worth, I have, on more than one occaison, taken a picture with my Casio Exilim, then swapped the SD card into my Palm Treo and sent the photo from the Exilim as an e-mail attachment or MMS. In sum, I do not follow this question exhaustively, but I think the SCH-A990 might be the best bet if you want to buy a camera phone directly through the carrier in the US. One option would be the Samsung SCH-A990, available in the US through Verzion, which has a 3.2-megapixel camera.

Samsung has a 10-megapixel phone, the SCH-B600, only in Korea, but there’s a five megapixel phone called the G600 (and also the G800) for sale in Europe. It is a quad-band GSM phone, so an unlocked version could be used in the United States without issue, on AT&T or T-Mobile, if you can buy one. The Nokia N95 is available in the US, in unlocked GSM versions, and has a 5-megapixel camera. So is the Sony K850i, which also has a 5-megapixel camera. There are a number of other Asian companies that make 4+ megapixel camera phones, many of which are tri-band GSM phones, but difficult to obtain in the US.

I’ve only played with these fleetingly at shows like COMEX in Singapore and CES, so I don’t have an informed opinion about which has decent image quality and functional ergonomics. Unfortunately, simply integrating a high pixel count CCD or CMOS into a mobile phone does not make for a usable camera. In particular, battery life is often a major issue with these types of devices. There may be some benefits to mobile device convergence, but I think that for many people some device divergence and redundancy may actually be better. Carrying both a modern mobile phone and a Casio Exilim S-series camera is thinner and lighter than many mobile phones from just a generation ago or compact digital cameras alone. Also, for what it’s worth, I have, on more than one occaison, taken a picture with my Casio Exilim, then swapped the SD card into my Palm Treo and sent the photo from the Exilim as an e-mail attachment or MMS.

In sum, I do not follow this question exhaustively, but I think the SCH-A990 might be the best bet if you want to buy a camera phone directly through the carrier in the US.

]]> By: Martin Schultz http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44413 Martin Schultz Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:46:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44413 For some reason I forgot the Nokia N93i 3x optical zoom but still only 3.2 mplx. http://www.imobile.com.au/PhoneReviews/default.asp?ID=reviewsmar0731 For some reason I forgot the Nokia N93i

3x optical zoom but still only 3.2 mplx.

http://www.imobile.com.au/PhoneReviews/default.asp?ID=reviewsmar0731

]]> By: Martin Schultz http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44407 Martin Schultz Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:37:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44407 It is only 3.2 megapixel but the sharp 903 is sold unlocked (Its rather common in some EU countries and should be available in the US) and got optical zoom. It can send email and MMS. REview here: http://www.imobile.com.au/PhoneReviews/default.asp?ID=reviewsmar0601 New sharp phones got more megapixel and more optical zoom but I don't think its wasy to get a unlocked version. It is only 3.2 megapixel but the sharp 903 is sold unlocked (Its rather common in some EU countries and should be available in the US) and got optical zoom. It can send email and MMS.

REview here: http://www.imobile.com.au/PhoneReviews/default.asp?ID=reviewsmar0601

New sharp phones got more megapixel and more optical zoom but I don’t think its wasy to get a unlocked version.

]]> By: Gen Kanai http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44344 Gen Kanai Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:35:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44344 Casio has the 5mp W53CA in the Japan market: http://www.au.kddi.com/english/product/lineup/w53ca/index.html You can see the quality here: http://flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=w53ca&m=tags Sadly, I don't know if it's scheduled for sale outside of Japan. Casio has the 5mp W53CA in the Japan market:

http://www.au.kddi.com/english/product/lineup/w53ca/index.html

You can see the quality here:

http://flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=w53ca&m=tags

Sadly, I don’t know if it’s scheduled for sale outside of Japan.

]]> By: Vadim http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-phone-available-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-44331 Vadim Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:13:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2007/10/19/what-is-the-most-camera-like-camera-pho#comment-44331 Nokia N95. It has Zeiss lens and pretty good quality. Also works well as camcoder. Nokia N95. It has Zeiss lens and pretty good quality. Also works well as camcoder.

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