Comments on: The New Gulfstream G650 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/ A posting every day; an interesting idea every three months... Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:24:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Percy C. Keith http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-78650 Percy C. Keith Thu, 03 Apr 2008 06:16:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-78650 The Webpage loaded for me via Verizon FiOS in just under 7 secs. Comcast cable is much slower. Lots of good stuff there, ( it's an Advertisement - not a manual ). The brochure was very nice, ( please make it easier to download to Adobe ). "Man, that water is cold.." "Sure is...deep, too.." I love the location of the nav/landing lights in the wing/cargo blister. Perfect for a pair of 'security' swap out 20 mm 'personal space' defense appliances. The opportunity for mods on this swanky mode is astounding. BR725's?! The G650 is the snot. The Webpage loaded for me via Verizon FiOS in just under 7 secs. Comcast cable is much slower. Lots of good stuff there, ( it’s an Advertisement – not a manual ). The brochure was very nice, ( please make it easier to download to Adobe ).

“Man, that water is cold..”

“Sure is…deep, too..”

I love the location of the nav/landing lights in the wing/cargo blister. Perfect for a pair of ’security’ swap out 20 mm ‘personal space’ defense appliances. The opportunity for mods on this swanky mode is astounding. BR725’s?!

The G650 is the snot.

]]> By: Chris Colohan http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77387 Chris Colohan Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:46:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77387 Okay, timed it at work: 54 seconds to load the opening page, 20 seconds to load the first link. I should complain that my connection here is just as slow as my home DSL service. :-) Okay, timed it at work: 54 seconds to load the opening page, 20 seconds to load the first link. I should complain that my connection here is just as slow as my home DSL service. :-)

]]> By: Chris Colohan http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77337 Chris Colohan Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:20:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77337 I thought you might be exaggerating on the speed of that web site. So I just timed it. Wow! 55 seconds to load the opening page. 20 seconds to load the first link that I clicked on. On my sonic.net "high speed" DSL. This has to be the slowest web site I have ever visited. As one would expect for the world's fastest business jet. But, perhaps you are right. Perhaps my connection to the internet is not fast enough. I'll give it a go again tomorrow at work (I work at Google). Perhaps, just possibly, their network connection is fast enough to do this site justice. I thought you might be exaggerating on the speed of that web site. So I just timed it. Wow!

55 seconds to load the opening page. 20 seconds to load the first link that I clicked on. On my sonic.net “high speed” DSL. This has to be the slowest web site I have ever visited. As one would expect for the world’s fastest business jet.

But, perhaps you are right. Perhaps my connection to the internet is not fast enough. I’ll give it a go again tomorrow at work (I work at Google). Perhaps, just possibly, their network connection is fast enough to do this site justice.

]]> By: SuperCorgi http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77282 SuperCorgi Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:30:06 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77282 VNE is what Mach .925? but those RR BR725 fans are incredible! 16,000lbs T/O thrust? That's just shy of an F-4 Phantom's J-79s in reheat. With available thrust, the thing could theoretically be supersonic, although obviously the airframe is not built for that. VNE is what Mach .925? but those RR BR725 fans are incredible! 16,000lbs T/O thrust? That’s just shy of an F-4 Phantom’s J-79s in reheat. With available thrust, the thing could theoretically be supersonic, although obviously the airframe is not built for that.

]]> By: jon http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77222 jon Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:40:57 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77222 Try this link: www.clients.star-digital.co.uk/gulfstream/g650/ Try this link:

http://www.clients.star-digital.co.uk/gulfstream/g650/

]]> By: philg http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77140 philg Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:28:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77140 Jonathan: I viewed the G650 page on a quad-core Pentium with 3 GB of RAM, connected via the "$10/month extra for higher speed" Comcast cable modem, which Comcast says will do "up to 16 Mbps", but I personally haven't seen more than about 10 Mbps sustained from any one server. Perhaps the page will load subjectively fast when the average household has multiple Verizon FiOS 30 Mbps connections? "Rich media"? Mostly what I noticed was the poverty of information on the site. There is more information on just the top page of http://news.google.com/, which loads instantly, than in the entire G650 "microsite". As for the music, I am often using my desktop computer to listen to Rhapsody or a radio station, so I find it annoying when a Web page has a soundtrack. My philosophy of Web design may admittedly be atavistic. When students ask how to design a page or interface, I say "Compare what you've built to Google, Yahoo, and Amazon. Any differences are mistakes." [I might add that our helicopters share a hangar with a Gulfstream G-IV, for which there is an adjacent management office. The Gulfstream team, which includes pilots, a mechanic, and a flight attendant, shares a 384 Kbps Covad DSL line.] Jonathan: I viewed the G650 page on a quad-core Pentium with 3 GB of RAM, connected via the “$10/month extra for higher speed” Comcast cable modem, which Comcast says will do “up to 16 Mbps”, but I personally haven’t seen more than about 10 Mbps sustained from any one server. Perhaps the page will load subjectively fast when the average household has multiple Verizon FiOS 30 Mbps connections?

“Rich media”? Mostly what I noticed was the poverty of information on the site. There is more information on just the top page of http://news.google.com/, which loads instantly, than in the entire G650 “microsite”. As for the music, I am often using my desktop computer to listen to Rhapsody or a radio station, so I find it annoying when a Web page has a soundtrack.

My philosophy of Web design may admittedly be atavistic. When students ask how to design a page or interface, I say “Compare what you’ve built to Google, Yahoo, and Amazon. Any differences are mistakes.”

[I might add that our helicopters share a hangar with a Gulfstream G-IV, for which there is an adjacent management office. The Gulfstream team, which includes pilots, a mechanic, and a flight attendant, shares a 384 Kbps Covad DSL line.]

]]> By: Jonathan King http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77093 Jonathan King Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:48:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77093 Phil: Thanks for your comments. My team and I created the G650 microsite, and had a lot of fun doing it. Sorry it took so long for you to load the website - it does contain a lot of rich media, better suited for high-bandwidth web connections. Jonathan King Phil:

Thanks for your comments. My team and I created the G650 microsite, and had a lot of fun doing it.

Sorry it took so long for you to load the website – it does contain a lot of rich media, better suited for high-bandwidth web connections.
Jonathan King

]]> By: David Wihl http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77080 David Wihl Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:13:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77080 The new 650 is very impressive, but it better be at that price. It's only 3.4 kts faster than the Citation X. As you may recall, we saw a X with new blended winglets being tested on s/n 0 when we were in ICT in December. I bet that the sole purpose of the new winglets is to retain bragging rights as the fastest non-military plane, even for a design 12 years older than the 650. And bragging rights are important when both companies spend thousands of dollars of jet A just to turn their planes into big Etch-a-sketches. GulfStream: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GLF17/history/20070206/1538Z/KATW/KATW Cessna response in a X: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N750CX/history/20080307/1757Z/KICT/KICT The new 650 is very impressive, but it better be at that price. It’s only 3.4 kts faster than the Citation X. As you may recall, we saw a X with new blended winglets being tested on s/n 0 when we were in ICT in December. I bet that the sole purpose of the new winglets is to retain bragging rights as the fastest non-military plane, even for a design 12 years older than the 650.

And bragging rights are important when both companies spend thousands of dollars of jet A just to turn their planes into big Etch-a-sketches.

GulfStream: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GLF17/history/20070206/1538Z/KATW/KATW

Cessna response in a X: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N750CX/history/20080307/1757Z/KICT/KICT

]]> By: Michael http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/comment-page-1/#comment-77077 Michael Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:55:01 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2008/03/13/the-new-gulfstream-g650/#comment-77077 "The world’s fastest flying airplane comes with the world’s slowest loading Web site" Sweet. That's a haiku of truth. You were too gracious to mention the super cheesy music, I hear a Casio keyboard playing a vibe with hints of Miami Vice, or is it Axel F? “The world’s fastest flying airplane comes with the world’s slowest loading Web site”

Sweet. That’s a haiku of truth.

You were too gracious to mention the super cheesy music, I hear a Casio keyboard playing a vibe with hints of Miami Vice, or is it Axel F?

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