http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/ news, views and info on self-help law and pro se litigation Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:11:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » the Florida Bar and you the people Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:39:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-#comment-1236 [...] It’s no secret that I am at times suspicious of the motives of the organized bar — especially when it comes to new sources of competition from outside (or even inside) the profession, and to the growth of the self-help law movement.  See, e.g., our post “a guide or a guild: where does your bar group stand?” (Sept. 8, 2006).  So, I was not very impressed by the Florida Bar’s UPL chairman’s suggestion that those who need “to save money” can get help from Legal Aid.  As you know, only a small portion of the total population who cannot afford lawyers (see prior post) is poor enough to be eligible for Legal Aid; and, of course, only a relatively small percentage of the eligible actually get a lawyer from Legal Aid.  [...] [...] It’s no secret that I am at times suspicious of the motives of the organized bar — especially when it comes to new sources of competition from outside (or even inside) the profession, and to the growth of the self-help law movement.  See, e.g., our post “a guide or a guild: where does your bar group stand?” (Sept. 8, 2006).  So, I was not very impressed by the Florida Bar’s UPL chairman’s suggestion that those who need “to save money” can get help from Legal Aid.  As you know, only a small portion of the total population who cannot afford lawyers (see prior post) is poor enough to be eligible for Legal Aid; and, of course, only a relatively small percentage of the eligible actually get a lawyer from Legal Aid.  [...]

]]> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-916 usefulinfo.org - blog Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:17:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-#comment-916 [...] Awareness that you’ve got a legal issue, though, doesn’t have to be the endpoint of public legal education. PLE that just tells you that you need a lawyer could indeed cause a big mess. Posted in Public Legal Education: My Thoughts | Leave a Reply [...] [...] Awareness that you’ve got a legal issue, though, doesn’t have to be the endpoint of public legal education. PLE that just tells you that you need a lawyer could indeed cause a big mess. Posted in Public Legal Education: My Thoughts | Leave a Reply [...]

]]> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-592 shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » Cisco turns to legal self-help and unbundling Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:47:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-#comment-592 [...] Chandler is tasked with utilizing technology to streamline legal processes.  He notes that the legal industry sometimes seems to be ‘the last vestige of the medieval guild system to survive into the 21st century’.”  [It’s nice to see someone other than Your Editor deride the profession’s guild mentality.] [...] [...] Chandler is tasked with utilizing technology to streamline legal processes.  He notes that the legal industry sometimes seems to be ‘the last vestige of the medieval guild system to survive into the 21st century’.”  [It’s nice to see someone other than Your Editor deride the profession’s guild mentality.] [...]

]]> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-471 shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » lawyers appreciate pro-se-friendly courts Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:05:54 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-#comment-471 [...] the attitude of the organized bar toward self-help assistance in courts is crucial to achieving meaningful access to justice — and [...] [...] the attitude of the organized bar toward self-help assistance in courts is crucial to achieving meaningful access to justice — and [...]

]]> http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-group-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-232 shlep: the Self-Help Law ExPress » Blog Archive » giving pro se a bad name Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:15:06 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2006/09/08/a-guide-or-a-guild-where-does-your-bar-#comment-232 [...]    There is much more of the same on TLC’s Using Self Help page. And, yes, these are the “good guys” who work in a “community clinic,” and not the big, bad bar associations we decried in prior posting.  We hope the pro se practitioners out there in California will tell us whether things are as bad as the Tenants Legal Center of San Diego would have us believe.  Aren’t the Landlord/Tenant materials provided by the California Court Self-Help website adequate for the needs of most tenants facing eviction?  Isn’t the 120-page Tenant Rights Guide from the Department of Consumer Affairs a worthwhile resource?  Has TLC merely used hyperbole to sell its unbundled services?  Or have they gone too far to scare up business from clients who went to their website hoping to find objective advice about the self-help option? [...] [...]    There is much more of the same on TLC’s Using Self Help page. And, yes, these are the “good guys” who work in a “community clinic,” and not the big, bad bar associations we decried in prior posting.  We hope the pro se practitioners out there in California will tell us whether things are as bad as the Tenants Legal Center of San Diego would have us believe.  Aren’t the Landlord/Tenant materials provided by the California Court Self-Help website adequate for the needs of most tenants facing eviction?  Isn’t the 120-page Tenant Rights Guide from the Department of Consumer Affairs a worthwhile resource?  Has TLC merely used hyperbole to sell its unbundled services?  Or have they gone too far to scare up business from clients who went to their website hoping to find objective advice about the self-help option? [...]

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