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	<title>Comments on: Stats and My Damn Stats</title>
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		<title>By: John Cannan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/shlep/2007/01/16/stats-and-my-damn-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cannan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

Attorneys somtimes ask for procedural guidance.  The times I can remember involved appeals from administrative agency decisions to court and appeals from circuit court to our appellate court.  Arbitration is also a big issue because it can be fairly confusing.

We do point out online resources and our state judicary website.  However, for many of the patrons that is not enough, they want some more explanation that the tomes of the commercial publishers provide.

I have been impressed with how independent our pro ses are.  Generally, they present a need, we tell them which resources they should consider and then they conduct the research on their own.  Occassionally we get the person who needs to be &quot;spoonfed&quot; but I would hazard to guess that they are fairly rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>Attorneys somtimes ask for procedural guidance.  The times I can remember involved appeals from administrative agency decisions to court and appeals from circuit court to our appellate court.  Arbitration is also a big issue because it can be fairly confusing.</p>
<p>We do point out online resources and our state judicary website.  However, for many of the patrons that is not enough, they want some more explanation that the tomes of the commercial publishers provide.</p>
<p>I have been impressed with how independent our pro ses are.  Generally, they present a need, we tell them which resources they should consider and then they conduct the research on their own.  Occassionally we get the person who needs to be &#8220;spoonfed&#8221; but I would hazard to guess that they are fairly rare.</p>
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		<title>By: david giacalone</title>
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		<dc:creator>david giacalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for keeping this tally, John. This is quite intersting.  Of course, I&#039;d love to know if the attorneys have to ask you for procedural guidance.  More on point, I wonder if there are online resources that you point patrons to when they ask about the use of legal resources (like the one put together by Mary Whisner at the Gallagher Law Library - http://lib.law.washington.edu/ref/pro-se.htm ). Are patrons willing to follow through on their own, when you give them a teaching tool, or do they want to be &quot;spoonfed&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping this tally, John. This is quite intersting.  Of course, I&#8217;d love to know if the attorneys have to ask you for procedural guidance.  More on point, I wonder if there are online resources that you point patrons to when they ask about the use of legal resources (like the one put together by Mary Whisner at the Gallagher Law Library &#8211; <a href="http://lib.law.washington.edu/ref/pro-se.htm" rel="nofollow">http://lib.law.washington.edu/ref/pro-se.htm</a> ). Are patrons willing to follow through on their own, when you give them a teaching tool, or do they want to be &#8220;spoonfed&#8221;?</p>
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