Comments on: The ‘Net in 10: Virtual Worlds in 2017 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/ learning, teaching, and virtual technologies Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:35:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gene Koo http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3028 Gene Koo Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:16:43 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/#comment-3028 I guess I don't mean that we will, individually, learn from games to become better citizens, but rather that games provide another angle of insight into what motivates people and causes them to form bonds and groups that are prerequisite to social and political action. Admittedly, the same logic applies to terrorist networks. I guess I don’t mean that we will, individually, learn from games to become better citizens, but rather that games provide another angle of insight into what motivates people and causes them to form bonds and groups that are prerequisite to social and political action. Admittedly, the same logic applies to terrorist networks.

]]> By: Mary http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3026 Mary Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:15:18 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/#comment-3026 I know you gave this talk last week but nevertheless: "virtual networks often extend rather than replace our physical ones" : agree "Our institutions of work and governance learn from the technology of play." : disagree - even though there are millions of people who play MMOGs, that's a tiny and geographically concentrated elite. If we want to "war game" democracy we need to find a technology that more people have access to so more people can participate and insert their own concerns into the game. Otherwise it's just people in rich democracies figuring out how to make the DMV line shorter. I know you gave this talk last week but nevertheless:

“virtual networks often extend rather than replace our physical ones” : agree

“Our institutions of work and governance learn from the technology of play.” : disagree – even though there are millions of people who play MMOGs, that’s a tiny and geographically concentrated elite. If we want to “war game” democracy we need to find a technology that more people have access to so more people can participate and insert their own concerns into the game. Otherwise it’s just people in rich democracies figuring out how to make the DMV line shorter.

]]> By: Gene Koo http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3013 Gene Koo Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:13:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/#comment-3013 Well, there's public, and then there's public, yah? Anyway, one thing I can do here is frame my comments with, "This is just draft" (a lot of good that did for danah, I know). And I have no idea how you'll frame our comments on Tuesday! Well, there’s public, and then there’s public, yah? Anyway, one thing I can do here is frame my comments with, “This is just draft” (a lot of good that did for danah, I know). And I have no idea how you’ll frame our comments on Tuesday!

]]> By: David Weinberger http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3012 David Weinberger Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:43:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2007/09/13/the-net-in-10-virtual-worlds-in-2017/#comment-3012 Cool! And I love the line: "Anyone who’s seen World of Warcraft would stop worrying about whether the Internet can build social capital and instead wonder – how is it going to help us to spend it?" I also find it amusing that you're willing to post onto your blog a talk that you (needlessly) worry might be "humiliating" when you present it in the rw. I do the same thing. All part of the intimacy of blogs. It's a funny sort of public, isn't it? :) Cool! And I love the line: “Anyone who’s seen World of Warcraft would stop worrying about whether the Internet can build social capital and instead wonder – how is it going to help us to spend it?”

I also find it amusing that you’re willing to post onto your blog a talk that you (needlessly) worry might be “humiliating” when you present it in the rw. I do the same thing. All part of the intimacy of blogs. It’s a funny sort of public, isn’t it? :)

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