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	<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Hub2 engages Allston residents in designing Honan Library Park by the zak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/07/18/hub2-engages-allston-residents-in-designing-honan-library-park/#comment-3415</link>
		<author>the zak</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/07/18/hub2-engages-allston-residents-in-designing-honan-library-park/#comment-3415</guid>
		<description>At the Allston Branch Public Library what's in the very very tall very
very narrow display case by the window on the left?... as you walk to the
back of the reference books reading room not going through the doors to
the art gallery.

Is it some kind of architectural exhibit?... it should be lit from the
inside but the power cord isn't plugged in, it's ironic the librarians
haven't any information !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Allston Branch Public Library what&#8217;s in the very very tall very<br />
very narrow display case by the window on the left?&#8230; as you walk to the<br />
back of the reference books reading room not going through the doors to<br />
the art gallery.</p>
<p>Is it some kind of architectural exhibit?&#8230; it should be lit from the<br />
inside but the power cord isn&#8217;t plugged in, it&#8217;s ironic the librarians<br />
haven&#8217;t any information !</p>
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		<title>Comment on (un)Common Knowledge forum : panelists finalized by xxxplayboyxxx</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2006/11/30/uncommon-knowledge-forum-panelists-finalized/#comment-3403</link>
		<author>xxxplayboyxxx</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2006/11/30/uncommon-knowledge-forum-panelists-finalized/#comment-3403</guid>
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		<title>Comment on Harvard votes YES to open access scholarship by Science Commons &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Harvard Law School goes open access</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/05/07/harvard-votes-yes-to-open-access-scholarship/#comment-3271</link>
		<author>Science Commons &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Harvard Law School goes open access</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/05/07/harvard-votes-yes-to-open-access-scholarship/#comment-3271</guid>
		<description>[...] Gene Koo, a Berkman fellow and Director of Online Training at Legal Aid University: &#8220;[Legal] scholarship has the potential to leap forward by large bounds with policies like Harvard’s in place.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Gene Koo, a Berkman fellow and Director of Online Training at Legal Aid University: &#8220;[Legal] scholarship has the potential to leap forward by large bounds with policies like Harvard’s in place.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightened doubt : Wikipedia&#8217;s postmodern search for truth by Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3202</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3202</guid>
		<description>You're right about the process claim and understanding that the community is the radical technology here, not the software. That's a key point that most people miss.

Here's the corollary: The claim to "truth" that the wikipedia process replaces was ALSO a claim built on process -- the "editorial process." 

Editorial process isn't a bad process -- it just doesn't scale to a global information culture. Editorial process will remain a part of this information ecosystem, generating many (most?) of the individual facts that are eventually processed through Wikipedia. And yes, when those facts appear in conflict, then NPOV will be called upon to mediate.

We can't know everything first-hand. We can't verify everything ourselves. And we certainly don't want to go back to the age of Revealed Truth and Appeal to Authority. 

That leaves us with process as our best option for managing claims to truth. What's radically different about Wikipedia isn't that it's "better," it's that the process is open, transparent and ENDLESS. It is less a document than a river. When we dip into it and collect a sample we are literally taking a snapshot of something in flux. 

The search for truth is personal. Wikipedia makes the tools of that search cooperative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the process claim and understanding that the community is the radical technology here, not the software. That&#8217;s a key point that most people miss.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the corollary: The claim to &#8220;truth&#8221; that the wikipedia process replaces was ALSO a claim built on process &#8212; the &#8220;editorial process.&#8221; </p>
<p>Editorial process isn&#8217;t a bad process &#8212; it just doesn&#8217;t scale to a global information culture. Editorial process will remain a part of this information ecosystem, generating many (most?) of the individual facts that are eventually processed through Wikipedia. And yes, when those facts appear in conflict, then NPOV will be called upon to mediate.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t know everything first-hand. We can&#8217;t verify everything ourselves. And we certainly don&#8217;t want to go back to the age of Revealed Truth and Appeal to Authority. </p>
<p>That leaves us with process as our best option for managing claims to truth. What&#8217;s radically different about Wikipedia isn&#8217;t that it&#8217;s &#8220;better,&#8221; it&#8217;s that the process is open, transparent and ENDLESS. It is less a document than a river. When we dip into it and collect a sample we are literally taking a snapshot of something in flux. </p>
<p>The search for truth is personal. Wikipedia makes the tools of that search cooperative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightened doubt : Wikipedia&#8217;s postmodern search for truth by FreieNetze.de &#187; Links für den 8.04.2008</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3199</link>
		<author>FreieNetze.de &#187; Links für den 8.04.2008</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3199</guid>
		<description>[...] Gene Koo - Enlightened doubt: Wikipedia`s postmodern search for truth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Gene Koo - Enlightened doubt: Wikipedia`s postmodern search for truth [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightened doubt : Wikipedia&#8217;s postmodern search for truth by Britta</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3198</link>
		<author>Britta</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3198</guid>
		<description>The NPOV policy was something of a collaboration between Wales and Wikipedia's co-founder, Larry Sanger, who has a philosophy Ph.D.! The policy page covers its development a little bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#History_of_NPOV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NPOV policy was something of a collaboration between Wales and Wikipedia&#8217;s co-founder, Larry Sanger, who has a philosophy Ph.D.! The policy page covers its development a little bit: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#History_of_NPOV" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#History_of_NPOV</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightened doubt : Wikipedia&#8217;s postmodern search for truth by Moulton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3197</link>
		<author>Moulton</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/04/07/enlightened-doubt-wikipedias-postmodern-search-for-truth/#comment-3197</guid>
		<description>The truth may be elusive, but it's generally easier to examine an expressed view and establish that it's false (even if it happens to be reported in an otherwise reliable source).

But NPOV doesn't help eliminate demonstrably false viewpoints.

At best (if you're lucky), you can obtain a balanced treatment where an article says, "According to a report in the NY Times, Party A made Claim X, while a different story in the Washington Post reports that Party B disputes Party A and asserts that Claim X is false."

NPOV doesn't get to the ground truth, and doesn't even support critical thinking and scientific examination of the evidence provided by any of the partisans to establish the veracity of any reported claim, no matter how ungrounded it might be.

Moreover, if one tries to push for critical thinking and scientific examination of disputed claims, the entrenched editors will allege that one is being "tendentious" and pushing an unpriviliged POV (namely the scientific, academic, or scholarly POV).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth may be elusive, but it&#8217;s generally easier to examine an expressed view and establish that it&#8217;s false (even if it happens to be reported in an otherwise reliable source).</p>
<p>But NPOV doesn&#8217;t help eliminate demonstrably false viewpoints.</p>
<p>At best (if you&#8217;re lucky), you can obtain a balanced treatment where an article says, &#8220;According to a report in the NY Times, Party A made Claim X, while a different story in the Washington Post reports that Party B disputes Party A and asserts that Claim X is false.&#8221;</p>
<p>NPOV doesn&#8217;t get to the ground truth, and doesn&#8217;t even support critical thinking and scientific examination of the evidence provided by any of the partisans to establish the veracity of any reported claim, no matter how ungrounded it might be.</p>
<p>Moreover, if one tries to push for critical thinking and scientific examination of disputed claims, the entrenched editors will allege that one is being &#8220;tendentious&#8221; and pushing an unpriviliged POV (namely the scientific, academic, or scholarly POV).</p>
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		<title>Comment on NY Times: your experiment with blogging has failed by Marie-Jose Klaver &#187; Is bloggen slecht voor de krant?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/02/11/ny-times-your-experiment-with-blogging-has-failed/#comment-3157</link>
		<author>Marie-Jose Klaver &#187; Is bloggen slecht voor de krant?</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/02/11/ny-times-your-experiment-with-blogging-has-failed/#comment-3157</guid>
		<description>[...] Koo van Harvard University schreef onlangs een tirade tegen webloggende journalisten. Volgens Koo, werkzaam aan het Berkman Center for Internet &#38; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Koo van Harvard University schreef onlangs een tirade tegen webloggende journalisten. Volgens Koo, werkzaam aan het Berkman Center for Internet &amp; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preview of Friday&#8217;s symposium @ Mixed Realities by BURAK ARIKAN &#187; Turbulence Mixed Realities Symposium</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/02/06/preview-of-fridays-symposium-mixed-realities/#comment-3145</link>
		<author>BURAK ARIKAN &#187; Turbulence Mixed Realities Symposium</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/02/06/preview-of-fridays-symposium-mixed-realities/#comment-3145</guid>
		<description>[...] Real World Implications of Virtual Economies [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Real World Implications of Virtual Economies [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m moderating a panel at Mixed Realities @ Emerson College, Feb 8 by Networked_Performance &#8212; Preview of Friday’s symposium @ Mixed Realities</title>
		<link>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/01/10/im-moderating-a-panel-at-mixed-realities-emerson-college-feb-8/#comment-3144</link>
		<author>Networked_Performance &#8212; Preview of Friday’s symposium @ Mixed Realities</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vvvv/2008/01/10/im-moderating-a-panel-at-mixed-realities-emerson-college-feb-8/#comment-3144</guid>
		<description>[...] panelists for Friday’s symposium, “Real World Implications of Virtual Economies,” teleconferenced this afternoon to plan our discussion. We’re abandoning the usual format of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] panelists for Friday’s symposium, “Real World Implications of Virtual Economies,” teleconferenced this afternoon to plan our discussion. We’re abandoning the usual format of [&#8230;]</p>
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