Web Marketing. Class 3-18-08
1:05pm: No need to talk about the Cluetrain chapter. Doc Searles says there’s “no market for messages”. What is marketing? Evidently, no marketing types in the class. One student with PR experience, working for a non-profit.
What is marketing?
–PR harasses media for a living. Always bring it back to the sound-bite. But it’s different for a smaller organization, a non-profit. I.e. media relations.
–Positioning = identifying the demographic, targeting(?) the demo. Branding a company w.r.t. a specific group.
–Branding. The brand should evoke feelings, images. For 30 years, branding has been the focus of marketing. A brand is money in the bank.
1:12pm
How do brand-marketers feel about the web?
–the fresh and young love it. Perhaps not “old-school” companies.
–a new channel of communication is opened up. A new avenue for getting the brand out there.
–the web is a network of associations, this opens up a new way of creating associations for a brand.
–the net is a positive thing for branding because it saves time and thinking. Brands do work for people using the net.
–branding creates a public image for the brand-user. i.e. signaling, conspicuous consumption.
–Famous anti-Howard Dean commercial doing 2004 listed the various “brand” adjectives which labeled the man as a Vermont liberal. Branders like this lifestyle association.
1:17pm
What’s the difference between reputation and brand?
–the reputation is based upon the actual products
–the brand is something created by marketers. It’s simply made up, not (necessarily) tied to the product itself.
–Mountain Dew should not intrinsically be linked to Gen X (nothing in its reputation would suggest this). A marketing simply decided this.
–Reputation management is a growing field, it’s no linger simple to create a brand out of the ether.
Back to the web. How do marketers feel about?
–It goes both ways. It’s easier to get a good reputation, and easier to get a bad one. Loud consumers can more easily express their views to the world—this hurts and helps.
1:22pm
Suppose you need to market a new camera with a new feature—how do you market it before the web?
–you stress that it’s revolutionary and new.
–what’s the sweet-spot? Consider the 2×2 – there are people who care about quality and those who care about ease of use. The sweet-spot captures both groups—a middle-aged demographic who want great pictures, aren’t knowledgeable about cameras, and have disposable income.
–“professional quality at the touch of a button”
–celebrity athlete endorsement.
–how do we get the news out? *Magazine ads with the same demographics, *limited offer to say platinum amex holders, *maybe direct mail (2% acceptance rate is good), *targeted tv ads, *in-store marketing, *pair up with airline companies, *product placement in movies and tv shows, *celebrity swag/freebies.
1:30pm
All of this marketing operating before the web on an assumption: everyone who sees the ad hasn’t asked to see, and in many cases would rather not see. The premise of marketing has been how do we get people who don’t want to see the ad pay attention to it.
–Jingles are unforgettable. There’s a reason why ads use them—marketing needs to rise above the background noise.
–But then what about infomercials? Why are they so long? See also David Ogilvy, “Confessions of an Advertising Man”, created a car ad with three ads of solid prose, broke all molds for magazine ads.
–And infomercials are also the point of sale.
1:37pm
Now, we will attempt to market on the web. What techniques will we employ?
–(Will it blend? See WillItBlend.com, a popular web meme with lots of product placement.)
–the four P’s = Product, Place, Promotion, and Price. (from a course at MIT on marketing, the link is on the Wiki).
–Shills in a camera tech forum. This is the (in)famous “astro-turfing” technique (i.e. fake grass-roots).
–Banner ads? Yes, if they’re targeted correctly. Has anyone ever clicked on one? A few. There are points programs that get you free stuff for clicking on them.
–Create your own website. Tech specs, pics, a forum. Will you be liable if you get those specs wrong? Consensus = probably.
–What’s on the forum? A place to ask questions, discuss the product, meet other users.
–Other forums? Ask the expert. But the messages may be controlled. Mix the bad with the good news so the forum seems reliable. Spin the bad questions.
1:50pm
–What about user-to-user communication? It’s cheap, but what control can you exert over the message? Perhaps it’s better for the company to host the forum, gives them the ability to reach out to dissatisfied customers.
–But perhaps the message board shouldn’t be on the site. The positive reviews induce skepticism, and the negative ones are surely right. The same strategies can be employed on public message boards.
–Take a look at the Apple site review for a mag-safe power adapter. The reviews are sorted by usefulness and not all are positive. How skeptical are we about the reviews on the site? And why are there so many reviews for a product for which there is apparently no competition? Will Apple respond to the feedback?
2:00pm
–Take a look at newegg.com, a computer hardware and software retail site with many user reviews. The reviews ask for consumers to indicate how long they’ve owned the product and they break down in a histogram the different reviews.
–Does Amazon lose sales based on bad reviews of a given book?
–Some banner ads are very effective, like the ones on Facebook.
–An effective banner targeting by the Obama campaign: every half-way positive article about the candidates links to the website and the donate button. Find out where the “product” is named and buy advertising on those pages.
–How effective are google context-sensitive ads? Can they interpret the tone, positive or negative, of the context? A few infamous stories of their ineffectiveness.
2:11pm
–Perhaps we’ll permit reviews, but we’ll certainly pay attention to them.
–What do we do about the blogosphere? A threat and an opportunity.
–Do we have a blog on our site, run by our employees? Photo blog creates excitement about the product, it’s a visual example of the products effectiveness. But it must be moderated. Also, direct customers to positive blog posts, even try a scavenger hunt. Or a testimonial section.
–Why not include all blog posts, positive and negative? What’s the expectation of the consumer? Perhaps the consumer only expects to see the positive reviews.
2:18pm
–On the other hand, allowing negative comments makes it more believable.
–Do we allow comments on our users’ submitted photos? What’s the worry for offense here?
–Connection with Naomi Klein’s No Logo. Sprite took the negative energy associated with overbearing celebrity-sponsored ads and made it into their own anti-image image.
–Do Amazon’s reviews control us by giving us the illusion of control?
–3rd party reviews are more intuitively trustworthy. So why do we have the forum at all?
2:27pm
–Have we discussed conversational marketing sufficiently? Do corporate shills lurk on these boards? Microsoft MVPs, amateurs who are nevertheless expert at their products, still provide helpful and frank information to consumers and have been embraced by the company.
What is the The Web Difference?
–offline is about control, shorter messages, simple, one-way interactions (them to you), “theirs”
–online is not necessarily about control (though this is an open issue), longer messages, complexity, two-way and multi-way interactions, “ours”

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