Comments on: More notes on Brandon Rosario, school reaction, and media fall-out http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/ I am a mongrel - O ma! A gremlin... Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:34:17 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Yule http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8740 Yule Sat, 03 May 2008 19:09:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-#comment-8740 Quick follow-up: I held a comment by "anonymous" in moderation for 5 days b/c I wanted to write a whole new post in reply. "Anonymous" was commenting on <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/24/file-under-shameless-reposting/" rel="nofollow">my first entry</a> about Brandon, posted April 24, and he used the word "titties." That kind of made me think he really missed the point. . Anyway, I wrote a long comment back to him after finally passing his comment just now. Read it <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/24/file-under-shameless-reposting/#comment-8739" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It's not the free-standing blog post I thought I should write, but I've been sick with flu all week, so that's it for now. Quick follow-up: I held a comment by “anonymous” in moderation for 5 days b/c I wanted to write a whole new post in reply. “Anonymous” was commenting on my first entry about Brandon, posted April 24, and he used the word “titties.” That kind of made me think he really missed the point.
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Anyway, I wrote a long comment back to him after finally passing his comment just now. Read it here. It’s not the free-standing blog post I thought I should write, but I’ve been sick with flu all week, so that’s it for now.

]]> By: John G http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8709 John G Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:41:48 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-#comment-8709 yeah, saw the video, that was first I saw the reference. Passing comment, naw, seems to me that was the highlight of it judging from response of audience. What media you talking about anyway? Times col didn't use that specific term at all, they focused on the 'racial' comments. I didn't really even take into consideration about the rack thing until watching the youtube video and piecing together the ramifications of targeting the individuals name. Yeah yeah, was joking about the lawsuit thing, although the yanks DO have this perception that they do every chance they get - no idea how true it is or why they get it...that countries got their own problems right now to worry about. Unneccesary hell, entirely, completely? huh? This wouldn't have been picked up by media if it didn't end up on youtube SIMPLE. This Dustin guy started this chit, the media then blew it up. You and me wouldn't be discussing right now if he didn't hit the upload button. END OF STORY Guess everyone gets their 15 minutes now. yeah, saw the video, that was first I saw the reference. Passing comment, naw, seems to me that was the highlight of it judging from response of audience. What media you talking about anyway? Times col didn’t use that specific term at all, they focused on the ‘racial’ comments. I didn’t really even take into consideration about the rack thing until watching the youtube video and piecing together the ramifications of targeting the individuals name.

Yeah yeah, was joking about the lawsuit thing, although the yanks DO have this perception that they do every chance they get – no idea how true it is or why they get it…that countries got their own problems right now to worry about.

Unneccesary hell, entirely, completely? huh? This wouldn’t have been picked up by media if it didn’t end up on youtube SIMPLE. This Dustin guy started this chit, the media then blew it up. You and me wouldn’t be discussing right now if he didn’t hit the upload button. END OF STORY

Guess everyone gets their 15 minutes now.

]]> By: Yule http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8708 Yule Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:59:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-#comment-8708 I don't know, John. What line are we talking about crossing, exactly? I don't see it -- and that's part of the school administration's problem, isn't it? They're trying to draw lines where none exist, and instead ending up with pretty ridiculous attempts to censor the free flow of information and speech. As for Brandon "calling out" the teacher -- did you watch the video? It was a passing comment, which would barely have merited attention if it weren't for the feeding frenzy of the mainstream media and its prurient interest in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brand_New_Monty_Python_Bok" rel="nofollow">tits 'n bums</a>. They're the ones who focused on the "rack" remark and the "peeing while sitting" comment -- tits and bums, see? Monty Python predicted it all. As I wrote in a comment to the previous entry, Ms. T can use this as a teaching opportunity. She certainly doesn't need to cower in fear -- or are you suggesting that's the Canadian way? As for bringing forth a lawsuit, oy veh. Canadians have this weird idea that everything in America is settled via lawsuit. Believe me, this one, were it attempted, would have no merit. And let's stop trying to pin blame, ok? First, the media pounce on Brandon. Since it's pretty obvious even to the terminally brain-dead that this isn't going anywhere, Dustin (or whoever filmed & posted the tape) is next -- and why is he next? Because the media are guiding and directing this. They're driving this. The "unnecessary hell" is entirely and completely manufactured by the Times-Colonist and A-Channel. If you're going to talk about silly things like lawsuits (and like I said, don't hold your breath -- this has no merit), those outlets are the ones who have the most to answer to. And I'll do everything I can in the court of citizen journalism / blogging to remind everyone of that. A-Channel and the Times-Colonist are the real culprits here. Without them, Ms T and anyone else named by Brandon would sink into well-deserved obscurity. They are the ones who are manufacturing the titillation which they then tut-tut over. What a pile of stinking hypocrites. I don’t know, John. What line are we talking about crossing, exactly? I don’t see it — and that’s part of the school administration’s problem, isn’t it? They’re trying to draw lines where none exist, and instead ending up with pretty ridiculous attempts to censor the free flow of information and speech.

As for Brandon “calling out” the teacher — did you watch the video? It was a passing comment, which would barely have merited attention if it weren’t for the feeding frenzy of the mainstream media and its prurient interest in tits ‘n bums. They’re the ones who focused on the “rack” remark and the “peeing while sitting” comment — tits and bums, see? Monty Python predicted it all.

As I wrote in a comment to the previous entry, Ms. T can use this as a teaching opportunity. She certainly doesn’t need to cower in fear — or are you suggesting that’s the Canadian way? As for bringing forth a lawsuit, oy veh. Canadians have this weird idea that everything in America is settled via lawsuit.

Believe me, this one, were it attempted, would have no merit.

And let’s stop trying to pin blame, ok? First, the media pounce on Brandon. Since it’s pretty obvious even to the terminally brain-dead that this isn’t going anywhere, Dustin (or whoever filmed & posted the tape) is next — and why is he next? Because the media are guiding and directing this. They’re driving this.

The “unnecessary hell” is entirely and completely manufactured by the Times-Colonist and A-Channel. If you’re going to talk about silly things like lawsuits (and like I said, don’t hold your breath — this has no merit), those outlets are the ones who have the most to answer to.

And I’ll do everything I can in the court of citizen journalism / blogging to remind everyone of that.

A-Channel and the Times-Colonist are the real culprits here. Without them, Ms T and anyone else named by Brandon would sink into well-deserved obscurity. They are the ones who are manufacturing the titillation which they then tut-tut over. What a pile of stinking hypocrites.

]]> By: John G http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8707 John G Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:57:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-#comment-8707 Seems to me Dustin, that if you were the one posting to youtube, yeah, you would be the one that crossed the line. I doubt talking about groups in general is an issue, but he called out this teacher by name (if he was politically correct, maybe saying Ms T would have been obvious to everyone there and still get his point across, but safely vague to everyone else?). I assume that is the one Brandon had to apologize to? If she still teaches somewhere, thanks to you, she has to worry about whether or not her kids saw the video and what they may blurt out or whisper as she goes by. Doesn't sound like fun to me. If this was america, she'd probably sue you for deformation of character for putting her through unnecessary hell. That sucks. Seems to me Dustin, that if you were the one posting to youtube, yeah, you would be the one that crossed the line. I doubt talking about groups in general is an issue, but he called out this teacher by name (if he was politically correct, maybe saying Ms T would have been obvious to everyone there and still get his point across, but safely vague to everyone else?). I assume that is the one Brandon had to apologize to? If she still teaches somewhere, thanks to you, she has to worry about whether or not her kids saw the video and what they may blurt out or whisper as she goes by. Doesn’t sound like fun to me. If this was america, she’d probably sue you for deformation of character for putting her through unnecessary hell. That sucks.

]]> By: Yule http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-reaction-and-media-fall-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8700 Yule Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:20:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/yulelog/2008/04/27/more-notes-on-brandon-rosario-school-#comment-8700 Hi ashton and Dustin -- thanks for stopping by and commenting. I agree with you that trying to go after the person who posted the video is stupid. This too is a freedom of speech issue, and the school can't jump on the "privacy" bandwagon if it has so far allowed other videos to be uploaded to Youtube. Sorry, school administrators, you don't have a leg to stand on as far as I can tell. Dustin, hold your ground. If the school hasn't made posting <i>any</i> video of in-school events <i>verboten</i>, then how can they single this one out? Hi ashton and Dustin — thanks for stopping by and commenting. I agree with you that trying to go after the person who posted the video is stupid. This too is a freedom of speech issue, and the school can’t jump on the “privacy” bandwagon if it has so far allowed other videos to be uploaded to Youtube. Sorry, school administrators, you don’t have a leg to stand on as far as I can tell.

Dustin, hold your ground. If the school hasn’t made posting any video of in-school events verboten, then how can they single this one out?

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