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April 18, 2005

homework for law school applicants

Filed under: pre-06-2006 — David Giacalone @ 3:09 pm

 



Sufflolk Law School Professor Andrew Perlman sent me off on quite 

a tangent last week, with his guest posting at Legal Ethics Forum 

on “Misleading Law School Promotional Materials” (April 13, 2005)  

So, I thought I better at least get a posting out of it. 

 

It seems Andy is worried that shady law school promotional tactics are

misleading and unfairly enticing the nation’s law school applicants. To avoid

hypocrisy and unpleasantly surprised students or graduates, Andy wants to apply

the same “strict” advertising criteria to schools that are applied to lawyers (although

he thinks the restrictions should be lifted from lawyers).  I wasn’t sure that the

crisis was as big as Andy suggested, or that we should worry too much about

law school applicants (since they can and should protect themselves); check out


 

After doing a bit of research and reflection, I came to the following conclusions:  black envelope

 

tiny check Naturally, it’s absolutely improper for law schools to be using deceptive

tactics in the admissions process  [unless used to weed out particularly credulous

or lazy applicants!]

 

tiny check  Standards for ABA-approved law schools already exist that can

adequately deal with the issue of misleading promotional practices.

Chapter 5 Admissions is most relevant — generally with Standard

501 and more specifically through Standard 509:



Standard 501. Admissions.


(a) A law school’s admission policies shall be consistent with

the objectives of its educational program and the resources

available for implementing those objectives.

(b) A law school shall not admit applicants who do not appear

capable of satisfactorily completing its educational program

and being admitted to the bar.

 

Standard 509. Basic Consumer Information

A law school shall publish basic consumer information. The

information shall be published in a fair and accurate manner

reflective of actual practice.

Moreover, under Interpretation 509-1: “The following categories of consumer

information are considered basic: (1) admission data; (2) tuition, fees, living costs,

financial aid, and refunds; (3) enrollment data and graduation rates; (4) composition

and number of faculty and administrators; (5) curricular offerings; (6) library resources;

(7) physical facilities; and (8) placement rates and bar passage data.

 

Interpretations 509-2 and 509-3 help ensure compliance through publication

requirements (and, if the school uses its own publication, distribution to each applicant),

and by making clear that the fair and accurate standard applies “whenever and wherever

that information is reported or published . . . in other places or for other purposes.”

 

“tinyredcheck”  As a result, a wide array of information, in uniform and easily-understood formats

(with avdanced search accessibility) is available for free to law school applicants and other

interested persons.  For example:


The LSAC Guide for each school has lots of data on topics that concerned Prof. Perlman,

including attritition rates (from year to year, academic and other), annual expenses and the

median size of financial aid, employment and bar passage rates, and even the number of

clinical classes and available seats.  For example, see  the LSAC guide for the University


 

tiny check  Given the existence and accessibility of this information, the importance of the decisions, and

the kinds of skills and attitudes a good lawyer needs, I cannot agree with Andy Perlman that

we should feel a lot of sympathy for “naive” or ignorant law school applicants-turned-student. 

Andy is, for example, perturbed because some law schools boast that many of their graduates

go on to public interest jobs without reminding applicants (on the same page, I guess) that huge

school debt might make it impractical or impossible to pursue a public interest dream.   Andy’s

complaint posits a degree of infantile obliviousness (or irresponsibility) on the part of applicants

and overweening nannyism on the part of schools and regulators that is beyond my ability to

comprehend, embrace or justify. 

 

“tinyredcheck”  For the sake of their future clients, I expect better of law school applicants.  Do your homework!

When an issue or topic is important to you (like Perlman’s example of the availability of touted

clinical programs), look into the details, ask questions, be diligent and zealous.

 

A big part of law school education should be helping the student to spot material issues, to persevere

in seeking answers, and to do the right thing despite the avarice and hypocrisy that is everywhere

in the profession and society.   The wise law school applicant, however, should be practicing and

demonstrating those skills in the application and selection process.  Don’t let the law schools off the

hook — but don’t for a moment believe that you can rely on “the other side” to give you the truth,

the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

 











admissions week –

two fat envelopes

and two thin ones

                          

               dagosan

 

 

A few parting thoughts:




  • Prof. Eric Goldman’s observation may be correct that better

    information is unlikely to lead many applicants to make better

    decisions. Show him he’s wrong, kids.




  • According to the Site Visit page of the ABA Legal Education


    with the applicable Standards should be sent to the Deputy Consultant

    on Legal Education to the American Bar Association, 321 N. Clark

    Street, Chicago, Illinois, 60610.





  • Be warned:. Law schools are being fed the magic potion of “branding”

    for “Selling your Law School in a Buyer’s Market” (Jan. 2005 AALS

    Convention – see “Strategic Identity and the Branding of Law Schools,”

    Jon M. Garon, Hamline University School of Law.  If there is substance

    behind the “strategic identity,” branding can be a useful tool.  The job of

    the applicant is to make sure it’s not smoke and mirrors.




  • As I stated at LEF (in a world-class run-on sentence): “In a world 

    where law school applicants have ready access to information that

    can easily counter law school promotional hype or spin, AND in

    which law schools are already subjected to Standard 509’s requirement

    of full disclosure that is fair and accurate (a test that I believe is more

    restrictive than the current Model Rule 7.1 for lawyers), I believe the

    legal community should be using its efforts to convert more states to

    the ABA’s Model Rule 7.1 approach for lawyer advertising, rather

    than attempting to counter hypothetical injury to law school applicants

    that can be avoided with a little diligence and a reasonable amount of

    common sense on their part.”


“tinyredcheck” p.s. (April 23, 2005):  Got time?  Here’s a little more homework (via

jd2b):  There’s a recent Washington Post Career Track column that is a

must-read for college students thinking about going to law school and their

parents.   In a review of the book Should You Really Be a Lawyer?,

by D. Schneider and G. Belsky (2004), Mary Ellen Slayter lists some of

the most common traps that applicants fall into as they march mindlessly

toward law schools without figuring out their own motivations, adding up

the true cost, assessing realistic job options if saddled with large debt, or

seeking out unbiased and experienced opinions about law practice.  “First,

Make a Case: Is Law School for You?” (Wash. Post, April 17, 2005)

 

 

 








 

admissions week –

two fat envelopes

and two skinny ones


         dagosan 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

prairie twilight…

the glow of the cattleman’s

branding iron

 

                Ed Markowski

 

 

 

 

 

during discussion

on the meaning of life . . . the crunch

of a student’s apple

 

 

                         George Swede

                                   from Almost Unseen

 

 

 

 

 

pencil shavings

the student’s tongue

curls and uncurls

 

                  DeVar Dahl

                          from A New Resonance 3

 

 



                         

 

- first posted as law school applicants need homework  April 18, 2005

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